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M/S Scebeli
Updated June 6-2012

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Crew List


Source: Historical Department, MAN B&W Diesel, Copenhagen.
Another picture is availble on this external page (click in it to enlarge).

Here's another picture and the story of someone who served on her from Jan.-1939, but paid off shortly before she was sunk (Johan Elgesem). His shipmates Finn T. Andersen and A. Eliassen also paid off at the same time. The text is in Norwegian. (Johan Elgesem later served on Fernbank).
See also this page, listing other Thor Dahl ships. (Both these are external links).

Owner: Skibsaktieselskapet Thorsholm
Manager: A/S Thor Dahl, Sandefjord
Tonnage:
3025 gt
Signal Letters: LJJT

Fruit carrier. Built by Burmeister & Wain's Maskin- og Skibsbyggeri A/S, Copenhagen in 1937.

Captain: Julius G. Lysøe had been Scebeli's captain for 5 years at the time of loss.

Related item on this website:
Guestbook message - From the son of 3rd Mate Sverre Johansen.

Her voyages are listed on these original images from the Norwegian National Archives:
Page 1 | Page 2 | Page 3 | Page 4

See also Arnold Hague's Voyage Record

Please compare the above archive documents with the following record:
Transcribed from a document received from Tony Cooper, England - His source: Public Records Office, Kew (dates are European style, showing day/month).

Arrived

Port

Departed

Convoy/Remarks
1939

28.11

Santos

02.12

Buenos Aires

Victoria, Brazil

11.12

19.12

St. Vincent, CV

19.12

25.12

Algiers

31.12

Port Said

31.12

1940

03.01

Haifa

03.01

Piræus

13.01

18.01

Gibraltar

18.01

22.01

St. Vincent

22.01

?.02

Santos

07.02

Rio de Janeiro

09.02

07.03

Port Said

08.03

09.03

Haifa

09.03

Beirut

13.03

15.03

Suez

15.03

See also Page 1

30.03

Table Bay

15.04

25.04

Freetown

25.04

06.05

New York

14.07

27.07

Santos

07.08

10.08

Buenos Aires

14.08

16.08

Bahia Blanca

Left Bahia Aug. 20 (Page 1)

24.08

Santos

07.09

08.09

Rio de Janeiro

13.09

14.09

Santos

15.09

18.09

Buenos Aires

20.09

24.09

Rio de Janeiro

28.09

01.10

Buenos Aires

03.10

06.10

Rio de Janeiro

11.10

17.10*

Buenos Aires

*Page 1 gives arrival Oct. 15 (left Oct. 17)

21.10

Rio de Janeiro

25.10

29.10

Buenos Aires

01.11

02.11

Montevideo

02.11

05.11

Rio de Janeiro

08.11

11.11

Buenos Aires

14.11

18.11

Rio de Janeiro

21.11

25.11

Buenos Aires

28.11

02.12

Rio de Janeiro

05.12

08.12

Buenos Aires

14.12

17.12

Rio de Janeiro

20.12

24.12

Buenos Aires

28.12

1941

01.01

Rio de Janeiro

05.01

09.01

Buenos Aires

12.01

15.01

Rio de Janeiro

18.01

22.01

Buenos Aires

06.02

08.02

Bahia

16.02

07.03

New York

27.03

02.04

Cristobal

02.04

03.04

Balboa

03.04

10.04

Valparaiso

22.04*

*Compare w/Page 1

22.04

Magallanes

22.04

29.04

Rio de Janeiro

06.05

07.05

Santos

14.05

28.05

Bermuda

29.05

31.05

St John, N.B.

02.06

05.06

Montreal

11.06

16.06

New York

18.06

05.07

Santos

06.07

10.07

Buenos Aires

17.07

20.07

Santos

24.07

10.08

Sydney, C.B.

11.08

13.08

Montreal

17.08

17.08

Three Rivers

21.08

29.08

St. Thomas

29.08

13.09

Buenos Aires

18.09

23.09

Rio de Janeiro

27.09

01.10

Buenos Aires

03.10

07.10

Rio de Janeiro

11.10*

*Page 2 gives departure Oct. 14.

15.10

Buenos Aires

18.10

21.10

Rio de Janeiro

24.10

28.10

Buenos Aires

31.10

04.11

Rio de Janeiro

09.11

12.11

Buenos Aires

14.11

18.11

Rio de Janeiro

20.11

24.11

Buenos Aires

26.11

30.11

Rio de Janeiro

03.12

07.12

Buenos Aires

11.12

15.12

Rio de Janeiro

18.12

22.12

Buenos Aires

26.12

30.12

Rio de Janeiro

04.01.1942

1942

08.01

Buenos Aires

12.01

16.01

Rio de Janeiro

19.01

23.01

Buenos Aires

28.01

01.02

Rio de Janeiro

03.02

04.02

Santos

06.02

10.02

Bahia Blanca

13.02

17.02

Santos

21.02

24.02

Buenos Aires

23.03

10.04

New York

02.05

03.05

Halifax

10.05

 See Convoy HX 189

21.05

Belfast Lough

22.05

23.05

Belfast*

08.06

*Cardiff - See Page 3

09.06

Barry Island

09.06

09.06

Milford Haven

11.06

12.06

Belfast Lough

12.06

ON 103
Convoy will be added.
See ships in ON convoys

27.06

New York

10.07

See Convoy BX 28C
(external link)

13.07

Halifax

19.07

See Convoy HX 199

30.07

River Mersey

30.07

30.07

Liverpool

04.08

05.08

River Mersey

05.08

ON 119
Convoy will be added.
See ships in ON convoys

21.08

New York

29.08

09.09

Belfast Lough

09.09

10.09

Bristol

16.09

16.09

Barry Roads

16.09

28.09

New York

01.10

13.10

River Mersey

13.10

13.10

Liverpool

20.10

20.10

River Mersey

20.10

31.10

St. John, N.B.

04.11

04.11

Halifax

05.11

13.11

Belfast Lough

13.11

13.11

Belfast

13.11

14.11

Cardiff

29.11

29.11

Barry Island

29.11

12.12

New York

17.12

In collision - See narrative below

26.12

Fayal

05.01.1943

1943

11.01

Liverpool

20.01

21.01

Loch Ewe

21.01

See Convoy WN 386
(external link)

23.01

Methil Roads

24.01

See Convoy FS 1021
(external link - incomplete info)

25.01

Tyne

07.03

09.03

Loch Ewe

09.03

19.03

Halifax

27.03

See Convoy HX 231
(external link)
Detached independent, Apr. 1

05.04

Liverpool

11.04

12.04

River Mersey

12.04

ON 178 - Sunk
See "Final Fate" below (& Page 4).
Convoy will be added.
See ships in ON convoys

  Again, here is Arnold Hague's Voyage Record

 Misc. Voyages: 

Scebeli had arrived Table Bay on March 30-1940, and it looks like she was still there when war broke out in Norway on Apr. 9 - see Page 1. It'll be noticed that she later had a long stay in New York, where she arrived on May 6; departure is given as July 14, when she proceeded to Santos. Her 1941 voyages also start on this document and continue on Page 2, which also has some of her early 1942 voyages, while the rest are shown on Page 3. As can be seen, she had a long stay in Buenos Aires early that year.

In May-1942, she's listed in Convoy HX 189, departing Halifax on May 10, arriving Liverpool May 20; Scebeli stopped at Belfast Lough, before proceeding to Cardiff, where she arrived May 23. The following month, we find her in the westbound North Atlantic Convoy ON 103*, which originated in Liverpool on June 12 (Commodore was in Kong Haakon VII). Scebeli was bound for New York and arrived there on June 27, having sailed from Milford Haven June 11, Belfast Lough June 12. She later proceeded to Halifax, and from there she joined Convoy HX 199 on July 19, arriving Liverpool on the 30th. Just a few days later, she joined the westbound Convoy ON 119*, departing Liverpool on Aug. 5, arriving New York Aug. 21. According to A. Hague, she had 6 passengers on board on this voyage. She returned across the ocean again on Aug. 29, but this voyage was made independently (as were the rest of her 1942 voyages back and forth across the Atlantic). Via Belfast Lough, she arrived Bristol on Sept. 10 (Page 3).

She was on an independent voyage from New York to the U.K. with a cargo of bacon on Dec. 19-1942 when she in a bad storm collided at full speed (15 knots) with an unidentified tanker. She was damaged (bow) and taken to Horta (Azores) for temporary repairs, then continued to the U.K. in Jan.-1943, with arrival Liverpool Jan. 11; again, see also Page 3. It looks like further repairs were undertaken at Tyne, where she arrived Jan. 25 - according to Page 4 she left North Shields "for trials & Loch Ewe" on March 7-1943, arriving Loch Ewe on the 9th, then proceeded to Halifax, where she arrived March 19. A. Hague says this voyage was also made independently.

About a week later, she headed back to the U.K. in Convoy HX 231. This convoy, which started out in New York on March 25-1943 and arrived Liverpool Apr. 10, is not yet available among the HX convoys included on my website, but will be added - see ships in all HX convoys (as will be seen, other Norwegian ships also took part). According to A. Hague, Scebeli had detached from the convoy on Apr. 1 and arrived Liverpool independently on Apr. 5 - she had sailed from Halifax on March 27. Several ships were lost - ref. external link below.

* The ON convoys mentioned here will be added to individual pages in my Convoys section in due course, with further info on each. In the meantime, the ships sailing in them (and escorts) are named in the section listing ships in all ON convoys. As will be seen, they all had several Norwegian ships. Note also that the entire HX series will be updated and completed (including the already existing convoys - some have already been updated), but for now, see ships in all HX convoys.

Related external link:
Ships hit from Convoy HX 231

 Final fate - 1943: 

Scebeli had departed Mersey again in ballast for New York in station 41 of Convoy ON 178 on Apr. 12-1943 - the ships sailing in this convoy are listed on this page (will later be added to its own individual page). On Apr. 21 she was torpedoed in the port foreship by U-191 (Fiehn), position 56 07N 44 26W (or U-415/Neide? See * below). At the time she was on a course 266° true, sailing at a speed of about 8 knots, in fair weather between snow squalls, temperature almost freezing, rough sea, wind NW force 5-6, daylight, good visibility.

A summary of statements by survivors, dated May 17-1943 (and signed U.S.N.R. Lieutenant J. C. Dea), states the following:
"At 18:50 GMT, 5 hours after an AWF warning was received that a sub was trailing the convoy, a torpedo struck the ship at about the No. 2 port hold. At the time, she was pitching and well down by the head in the trough of the sea, foredeck completely submerged. A large cloud of smoke and a dark brown substance were seen to billow upward. It was thought that the brown substance may have been the cork insulation of the refrigeration compartment. There was a complete lack of flash or shock from the explosion, and no column of water was seen. The torpedo apparently struck deep, with the water and cork muffling the explosion. The entire forepart quickly sank. It was thought the entire ship was going to sink very quickly, because stern appeared to rise out of the water, and part of the propeller was seen. The port aft of the bridge regained even keel, remained afloat, and had not sunk when last seen. No distress signals were sent, nor was any counter-offensive offered. Information unavailable as to disposition of codes. All members of the crew are reported to have successfully gotten away in boats, and to have been rescued by one of the other convoy ships, believed to be the Southern Gift. (Note: Southern Gift is not listed in Convoy ON 178, but there's a Southern Sun - for info, there's a Northern Gift mentioned in connection with Convoy ONS 3). Number of personnel aboard unavailable, but it was reported that all hands were saved. The submarine was not sighted at any time. Dispatches reported that the after part of the ship is presumed to have sunk".

In fact, 1 was killed in the explosion, 1 drowned (the cook). The captain and 38 others stayed nearby in 3 lifeboats, the port boat having been lost. By the time they had gotten in the boats the entire foreship was under water, and it looked as if it had broken off. Two hours later, the British destroyer HMS Hurricane and frigate HMS Kale (K 241), which had been chasing the U-boats returned to the scene, and Kale picked up the survivors from Scebeli. They were landed in Argentia, New Foundland on Apr. 26.

Just for info, the above mentioned "summary of statements" also adds: "Reported that convoy (given as ON 178) passed through heavy ice from 10:00 GMT on April 24 until 05:00 on April 25, at which time the convoy was diverted to the south. Approximate position of heaviest part of ice was given as 47 53N 48 48W. On April 20, 1943, the convoy also encountered a concentration of field ice, with occasional icebergs, in approximate position of 58 04N 38 48W. Considerable ice damage was thought to have been suffered by several vessels, particularly one Liberty ship".

* There's quite a bit of confusion and disagreements regarding this incident in my various sources. According to "Nortraships flåte" Convoy ON 178 consisted of 18 ships and 7 escort vessels (but this convoy was much larger), and says Scebeli was torpedoed by U-415. Roger W. Jordan, "The World's Merchant Fleets 1939" says Scebeli was in Convoy ONS 3 at the time, and was torpedoed by U-191 (Fiehn). He agrees with the position given above (as will be seen when following the link, Scebeli is not mentioned in the original document for this convoy). On the other hand, Jürgen Rohwer agrees with "Nortraships flåte" with regard to the convoy (ON 178) but with R. Jordan with regard to the U-boat (U-191). Yet another source, Arnold Hague's "The Allied Convoy System 1939-1945" agrees with Convoy ON 178, and also states U-191 was the culprit. Convoy ONS 3 had left Liverpool on Apr. 4-1943 and arrived Halifax on Apr. 28. ON 178, on the other hand, did leave Liverpool on Apr. 12, arriving New York on May 2. Another interesting fact to note is that "Nortraships flåte" says 3 ships were sunk, the other sources give only 1 for ON 178, namely Scebeli. According to A. Hague, Convoy ONS 3 did have 18 ships, 2 sunk, both on Apr. 21, namely the British Ashantian and Wanstead. ("The World's Merchant Fleets 1939" gives Convoy ON 178 for Wanstead). Uboat.net gives U-191, Convoy ON 178 for Scebeli - external link.

R. Jordan says in an E-mail to me: Scebeli was in ONS 3, there is no doubt about that. ON 178 was not too far away. U191 was in a group of U-boats called the Meise group which was lurking off Newfoundland and on 20.4 it was learned that the Convoy HX 234 would be passing to the west of the line of patrol of the Meise group. The U-boats moved northwards and the convoy was sighted on 21.4 by U-306. On her way to get close to the convoy, U-706 sighted convoy ONS 3. The Meise group boats divided, some going after each convoy. U415, U191, U203, U438, U613 and U191 went for ONS 3 and on 21.4 U-191 torpedoed Scebeli. U-191 was sunk shortly after this by Royal Navy escort vessels. U-415 scored the other successes against ONS 3 - two British freighters.

Another researcher and visitor to my site states that Scebeli was definitely in convoy ON 178, adding that U-191 probably did torpedo this ship, but as the U-boat was lost two days later, the war diary for this period will be missing. He bases his conclusions on a number of factors, as follows:

Rohwer claims U-191 attacked at 18:30 CET i.e. German time, which at that date was German Summer Time, and was 2 hours ahead of GMT. In his report, which I've added below, the captain of Scebeli says his ship was torpedoed at 15:45 ship's time (while he gives the time as 17:45 GMT in another report dated Apr. 23-1943). The local time for the longitude of 44W would have been 3 hours behind GMT or possibly 2 1/2 hours behind. The rule is for every 15º of longitude there is a difference of 1 hour from Greenwich Oº. Thus, going westward the time lags behind GMT and going east the time is in advance of GMT. U-boats were instructed to keep report times in CET - Berlin time/Central European Time, which was either German Winter Time or Summer Time, the former being 1 hour ahead of GMT and the latter 2 hours ahead of GMT, as mentioned. Consequently, in the case of Scebeli, if U-191 had attacked at 18:30 CET as Rohwer claims, the attack would have been at 13:30 local time (3 hours behind GMT). So, either Rohwer's book has incorrect time information or the captain's report has incorrect time, though the latter seems unlikely. The grid position of U-191, AJ 2895 = 56.33N 44.48W is reasonable to tie in with the position given for Scebeli's sinking, 56 07N 44 26W, when allowing for errors on both sides. The poor weather at the time may have prevented an accurate reading from the sun and the stars.

This Guestbook message from the son of the 3rd mate states: "My Father, Sverre Johansen, was the third mate on the Scebeli when she was torpedoed. On several occassions he told me about the events of 21st April 1943. I think I can throw some light on the time of the sinking. Dad said that he was just leaving his cabin and preparing to go on watch to relieve the second mate when the torpedo struck. The tradition was to relieve your comerade with a warm drink 5 minutes before he was due to go off watch. With the watch changing at 16:00 it is likely that the torpedo did strike at 15:45 local ship's time as stated by the Captain. It was almost dusk when the survivors were picked up by HMS Kale which would also confirm the time of the sinking as it gets dark around 17:00 at that time of year. My Father used to toast the Royal Navy on the anniversary of the sinking because he was so impressed that the look-outs spotted the lifeboat in the failing light and he complimented the Captain of HMS Kale for the skill in drawing alongside the lifeboat close enough to allow all the survivors to jump onto scrambling nets that had been hung over the side."

Page 4 of the archive documents states: "Vessel abandoned 21.4.43 (19:30)".

As already mentioned, Scebeli is indeed included in Convoy ON 178. The Norwegian O. B. Sørensen and Panamanian Norvinn (Norwegian managers) are also listed, while the only Norwegian ship in ONS 3 was Fernbank.

 Captain Lysøe's Report: 

The captain confirms that Scebeli departed Liverpool (with a complement of 41) on Apr. 12-1943 for New York, adding she was in ballast except for about 2300 bags of mail stowed in the holds (he does not mention a convoy). He places the attack to 15:45, ship's time, with everything in front of the bridge ripped away from the resulting explosion. On the bridge at the time were 2nd Mate Alf Andersen and Able Seamen Alfred Johannesen (helmsman), Audun Hervig and Karl Allum, the latter 2 were look-outs. The captain himself had just left the bridge and was in his cabin when the explosion occurred. He was thrown up to the ceiling and got quite a bump when he came down, though was able to head back to the chart house in order to get to the ship's papers and code books, but found the entrance blocked by cement slabs and steel plates that had been put up for protection in the pilot house and chart house. The radio station was destroyed, as were the alarm installations and internal communications system. The main engine had been stopped right away by the 3rd engineer who was on duty (others on watch in the engine room were Electrician Mathisen, Refrig. Engineer Mjelde, and Mechanics Storlid, Pedersen, Reitan and Berntsen).

Scebeli quickly developed a heavy list to port as the men were getting into the lifeboats. As he came to the boat deck the captain noticed that the port midships boat had been lost during the launching effort ("Nortraships flåte" states it was lost because the men had been unable to work with it due to the ammonia gas from the engine room), so he went to the starboard midships boat and helped get it on the water. It had to move away quickly to prevent being crushed against the side of the ship. Only 10 men had managed to get into this boat. He then proceeded aft where both lifeboats were successfully lowered, and again they had to get away quickly to avoid being crushed underneath the after part of the ship, and to stay clear of the propeller which was above water by this time. Some of those who had launched the boats had to jump in the water and were fished up later, others managed to get on a raft. All 3 boats stayed fairly close to the wreck, though were separated somewhat while rescuing people from the rafts and from the water, so a proper count could not be taken until a couple of hours later when they were picked up by a British escort (this was the frigate HMS Kale), at which time 2 men were found to be missing; 1st Cook Olaf Olsen and Able Seaman Karl Allum. Captain Lysøe requested that their rescuers circle the wreck as closely as possible a few times, in the hope of finding the missing men, but with no luck.

The captain of the escort vessel stated he had to participate in the hunt for the U-boat, but offered to sink Scebeli with his guns first, providing Captain Lysøe would give his permission. Lysøe felt this was not necessary as water had already rushed into the engine room right after the explosion and Scebeli now showed clear signs of sinking on her own. Captain Lysøe concludes his report by saying 39 men had been picked up by the escort and landed in Argentia, N.F. on Apr. 26. Some had slight injuries but were given the necessary care by the doctor on board the escort, and only 1 man had a brief stay at a hospital in St. John's, N.F.

The inquiry was held in St. John's on Apr. 28-1943 with the captain, the 2nd mate (since Jan. 27-1942), Able Seamen Johannesen and Hervig, and the 3rd engineer appearing.

Crew List:
There seems to be a name missing here; Scebeli had a complement of 41, 39 were saved.
The captain refers to the missing cook as "1st cook" in his report, and in his statements at the hearings Able Seaman Johannesen mentions a "2nd cook" - perhaps he's the one not listed below?
* 1st Mate Knudsen later survived the loss of Iris - he also served on Carl Oftedahl.

Survivors
Captain
Julius G. Lysøe
1st Mate
Jacob Knudsen*
2nd Mate
Alf Andersen
3rd Mate*
Sverre Johansen
Radio Operator
Anker Olsen
2nd Radio Operator
Sverre Davidsen
3rd Radio Operator
Per Larsen
Carpenter
Hilmar Lyngmo
Boatswain
Ingeberg Nilsen
Able Seaman
Frank Thuestad
Able Seaman
Audun Hervig
Able Seaman
Johan Rusten
Able Seaman
Johan Vikane
Able Seaman
Grant Bersli
Able Seaman
Alfred Johannesen
Able Seaman/Gunner
Reidar Andersen
Able Seaman/Gunner
Andreas Christensen
Able Seaman/Gunner
Leif Pedersen
Able Seaman/Gunner
Torgeir Indstø
Able Seaman/Gunner
Bjørn Hugo Nielsen
1st Engineer
Olaf Langballe
2nd Engineer
Petrus Westerlund
3rd Engineer
Per Ellefsen
Assistant
Leif Dahl
Refrig. Engineer
Olaf Mjelde
Electrician
Leif M. Mathisen
Mechanic
Olaf Berntsen
Mechanic
Wilhelm Reitan
Mechanic
Nils M. Pedersen
Mechanic
Einar Slaata
Mechanic
Johan Bergvik
Mechanic
Gregar Storlid
Mechanic
Karl Johansen
Mechanic
Sverre Røskeland
Steward
Kjell Andreassen
Galley Boy
Georg Årvik
Mess Boy
Harold Smith
(British)
Saloon Boy
Berger Johansen
+ 1 more?
* See this Guestbook message
(Sverre Johansen died Nov. 13-2002, aged 87)
Casualties

Able Seaman
Karl Allum

Cook
Olaf Olsen

Related external links:
Stavern Memorial commemorations

U-191 - As can be seen, this U-boat only sank 1 ship, namely Scebeli. U-191 was sunk with all hands on Apr. 23-1943 by HMS Hesperus
U-415 - Hit 2 ships from Convoy ONS 3, namely Ashantian (Commodore Vessel) and Wanstead, as mentioned in the above narrative. Wanstead was damaged in the attack, later sunk by U-413.

M/V Scebeli - Technical data (Darren Dypevåg).

Back to M/S Scebeli on the "Ships starting with S" page.

The text on this page was compiled with the help of: "Nortraships flåte", J. R. Hegland, some documents, including the captain's report, received from Narve Sørensen (ex Thor Dahl employee), "Sjøforklaringer fra 2. verdenskrig", Norwegian Maritime Museum, Volume II, summary of statement by survivors (a memorandum dated May 17-1943, and signed U.S.N.R. Lieutenant J. C. Dea), received from Tony Cooper, England, and misc. others for cross checking as mentioned in the text (ref. My sources).

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