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M/S Thorstrand
Updated Sept. 14-2012

To Thorstrand on the "Ships starting with T" page.

Crew & Passengers when sunk


Picture source: Narve Sørensen (ex Thor Dahl employee).


Received from, and painted by, Jan Goedhart, Holland.


From Bjørn Milde's postcard collection.
Another picture is available on this external page (click in the thumbnail to enlarge).

Owner: Skib-A/S Thorsholm
Manager: A/S Thor Dahl, Sandefjord
Tonnage:
3041 gt
Signal Letters: LJVY

Built at Framnæs Mek. Verksted A/S, Sandefjord, Norway in 1938. Fruit carrier.

Captains: Petter Martin Pedersen (from Dec.-1941 to July-1942). He had previously served on Vest and Lutz. Also, Karl Petter Pedersen and Anthonius Stave.

Related items on this website:
Guestbook message from the son of the 1st mate. Here's a more recent posting (related to the message below).
Guestbook messages from the captain's son.
Another Guestbook message - From the nephew of one of the survivors of Thorstrand.

Her voyages are listed on these original images from the Norwegian National Archives:
(unfortunately, all the sailing dates are missing on Page 2)
Page 1 | Page 2 | Page 3 | Page 4


Please compare the above voyages with Arnold Hague's Voyage Record below.

  Voyage Record
From March-1940 to March-1943:  

(Received from Don Kindell - His source: The late Arnold Hague's database).

Follow the convoy links provided for more information on each.

Errors may exist, and several voyages are missing.

Departure From To Arrival Convoy Remarks
1940 March 22 Albany Suez Apr. 11 Independent Later arrived Port Said, Apr. 20
(Page 1).
Apr. 22 Port Said Gibraltar Apr. 28 Independent
May 4 Gibraltar Portland May 13 HG 29F
May 15 Weymouth Bay Downs May 15 Independent See also Page 1 above
June 1 Southend Falmouth June 2 OA 159 Convoy available at OA 159
(external link)
June 4 Falmouth OA 161G For NYC.
Detached June 5.
Convoy available at OA 161G
See also this page
(external links)
June 5 Detached from OA 161G Hampton Roads June 14 Independent
July 13 Hampton Roads Santos July 27 Independent
July 29 Santos Buenos Aires Aug. 1 Independent
Aug. 2 Buenos Aires Bahia Blanca Aug. 5 Independent
Aug. 8 Bahia Blanca Santos Aug. 12 Independent
Aug. 16 Santos Buenos Aires Aug. 20 Independent
Aug. 23 Buenos Aires Santos Aug. 26 Independent
Sept. 1 Santos Buenos Aires Sept. 5 Independent
Sept. 8 Buenos Aires Rio Sept. 12 Independent
Sept. 20 Rio Buenos Aires Sept. 24 Independent A. Hague says:
Traded Brazil/Argentina to July 13-1941.
See Page 1 & Page 2
1941 July 13 Santos St Thomas July 25 Independent
July 25 St Thomas Sydney, C.B. Aug. 1 Independent
Aug. 2 Sydney, C.B. Montreal Aug. 4 Independent
Aug. 9 Montreal Lewisport Aug. 14 Independent
Aug. 20 Lewisport Botwood Aug. 25 Independent A. Hague says:
Notional sailing date
(Page 3 gives Aug. 25).
Aug. 29 Botwood St Thomas Sept. 5 Independent
Sept. 6 St Thomas Buenos Aires Sept. 21 Independent A. Hague says:
Traded Brazil/Argentina to March 26-1942
(see Page 3 above)
1942 Apr. 25 Buenos Aires Montevideo Independent
Apr. 26 Montevideo New York City May 21 Independent
June 7 New York City Cape Cod Bay Independent
June 8 Cape Cod Bay Halifax June 10 BX 23A Convoy available at BX convoys
(external link)
June 14 Halifax Belfast Lough June 25 HX 194
June 26 Belfast Lough Milford Haven June 27 BB 191 Convoy available at BB convoys
(external link)
June 27 Milford Haven Southampton June 29 WP 178 Convoy available at WP convoys
(external link)
Left Southampton July 3
(Page 4)
July 4 Solent Milford Haven July 6 PW 181 Convoy available at PW 181
(external link - incomplete)
July 7 Milford Haven New York City July 16 Independent (See also narrative below).
Left July 25, put back
(Page 4).
July 30 New York City Belfast Lough Aug. 9 Independent
Aug. 9 Belfast Lough Bristol Aug. 10
Aug. 15 Avonmouth* New York City Aug. 26 Independent *From Bristol
Aug. 30 New York City Liverpool Sept. 10 Independent
Sept. 15 Liverpool New York City Sept. 25 Independent
Oct. 4 New York City Liverpool Oct. 16 Independent
Oct. 22 Liverpool New York City Nov. 1 Independent
Nov. 5 New York City Liverpool Nov. 17 Independent
Nov. 26 Liverpool New York City Dec. 8 Independent See also narrative below
Dec. 24 New York City Liverpool Jan. 7-1943 Independent
1943 Jan. 11 Liverpool Halifax Jan. 24 Independent
Febr. 11 Halifax Liverpool Febr. 21 Independent
Febr. 27 Liverpool Independent Independent to St. John, NB.
Sunk - See "Final Fate" below


 Some Convoy Voyages: 
For information on voyages made in between those mentioned here, please see the documents received from the National Archives of Norway and A. Hague's Voyage Record above. Please follow the convoy links provided for more details; other Norwegian ships also took part.

As will be seen when going to Page 1 of the archive documents, Thorstrand arrived Suez from Albany on Apr. 11-1940, 2 days after the Germans invaded Norway. It looks like her destination had initially been Oslo, Norway, but she was diverted to London, where she eventually arrived, via various other ports, on May 16, having sailed from Gibraltar in Convoy HGF 29 on May 4. Her destination is given as Portland and London with fruit - she arrived Portland on May 13, London May 16, as already mentioned. According to Arnold Hague, she later joined Convoy OA 159, along with Bello and Corvus. This convoy departed Southend on June 1 and dispersed June 4. Her destination is not given, but it looks like she left the convoy before it was dispersed, arriving Falmouth on June 2, and from there, she joined Convoy OA 161, which originated in Southend on June 3 and joined up with Convoy OB 161 on June 5, the combined convoy forming Convoy OG 32, which arrived Gibraltar on June 11 (Tautra is also listed). Thorstrand, however, was bound for Hampton Roads, where she arrived June 14 - A. Hague says she had been detached from the convoy on June 5. She's not included in OG 32, so must have left before the 2 convoys joined up (OG 32 will be added to an individual page in my Convoys section in due course; in the meantime, the ships sailing in it are named on the page listing ships in all OG convoys). The OA convoys mentioned here are available via the links provided within the Voyage Record above. Thorstrand subsequently remained at Hampton Roads for a month, before proceeding to Santos and Buenos Aires.

Some of her 1941 voyages are listed on Page 2 but unfortunately, all the sailing dates are missing from the document. The rest of her 1941 voyages are shown on Page 3, which also has some 1942 voyages (it'll be noticed that she had quite a long stay in Buenos Aires that spring). As mentioned further up on this page, her captain from Dec.-1941 to July-1942 was Petter Martin Pedersen.

On June 14-1942, she's listed in Convoy HX 194 from Halifax, cargo of bacon (Torvanger was sunk - follow the link for details). Thorstrand stopped at Belfast Lough on June 25, continuing to Milford Haven and Southampton the next day. The following month, she was on a voyage from Southampton to New York via Milford Haven, when an intense air attack took place in Milford Haven, lasting for 2 hours. She had just had some American anti aircraft armament installed and the gunners defended her fiercly, preventing a direct hit on the ship. Thorstrand was damaged when a bomb fell right in front of her, but was able to continue her voyage. She arrived New York on July 16, having sailed from Milford Haven on July 7 - her voyages in this period are shown on Page 4.

Later that year, when on a voyage from Liverpool to New York, Thorstrand rescued survivors from the British Glenlea, which had been torpedoed and sunk on Nov. 7-1942 by U-566. This ship had been a straggler from the westbound North Atlantic Convoy ON 142. Thorstrand's captain at that time was Karl Petter Pedersen. A posting to my Ship Forum says:
On 28/11/1942, Thorstrand rescued the four survivors that were still alive after spending 21 days on a raft after their ship Glenlea was torpedoed on 07/11/1942 by U 566. One of the survivors later died onboard Thorstrand but the remaining three were later landed at New York on 09/12/1942. (Her arrival New York is given as Dec. 8 on the archive document mentioned above, but this could simply be a matter of different time zones used in the reports).

Related external link:
The attack on Glenlea

 Final Fate - 1943: 

Captain Anthonius Stave. Thorstrand had departed Liverpool alone on Febr. 27-1943 with about 1500 tons general cargo for St. John, N. B., but didn't make it to her destination. On March 6, she was torpedoed and sunk by U-172 (Emmermann), position 41 23N 42 59W. Page 4 of the archive documents gives the time as about 19:17 (J. Rohwer gives time as 23:07). The torpedo struck on the port side in No. 3 hatch, destroying the port midships lifeboat. 4 died while 35 crew and the 8 passengers survived. ("Nortraships flåte" gives the sinking position as 41 23N 42 50W).

The next morning, the motor lifeboat took the other 2 lifeboats in tow, heading for the Azores. 1 of the lifeboats had to be given up due to leaks, and after 3 injured men had been transferred to the motorboat it was ordered to go on ahead. It was located on March 14 by an American ship and its occupants landed at Casablanca on the 21st, while the lifeboat continued sailing for 11 days until they on March 17 were taken in tow to Flores by a motorboat which came out.

 Summary of Captain Stave's Report: 

Antonius Stave says they departed Liverpool on Febr. 28 with general cargo and 8 passengers, as mentioned. He states that a periscope was sighted on March 5 in position 42 39N 36 00W, and the men were ordered to their stations. A couple of shots were fired from their 3 inch gun but the boat submerged, and they saw no more of it. Thorstrand continued at top speed with stations still manned all afternoon, while at the same time altering course and zig-zag'ing. Around 4 in the afternoon (this must be ship's time?) a lifeboat* was spotted ahead, as well as a lot of oil and wreckage from a recently torpedoed ship, but while they were still debating whether it would be wise to stop for a rescue operation, 2 surfaced U-boats were sighted, 1 near the lifeboat which was on their starboard side and 1 straight ahead. Shots were again fired while they tried to get away but the U-boats followed, though too far away for Thorstrand's guns to be of any use. After about an hour yet another U-boat was spotted on their starboard side, about 4 miles off. Thorstrand's speed helped her stay ahead, and as it turned dark the captain little by little altered course again until they at 11 that evening headed at full speed back to the original course. Nothing further happened that night, and they thought they had indeed escaped.

* According to a gunners' report in "Nortraships flåte", a total of 3 lifeboats were spotted at short intervals on the 5th, the 2nd signalling with very weak lights, and the 3rd with smoke.

The next day, March 6, dawned with beautiful weather and they all started to relax a little, though kept a very close lookout. 1st Mate Ivar K. Solbak took over on the bridge about 4:30 that afternoon and the captain went for dinner. Just as he was done and ready to return to the bridge he noticed a bump as if they had hit something floating in the water, and then a terrible explosion occurred. By the time he got to the lower bridge, the entire midships section was on fire. He ran up to the bridge to throw the secret documents overboard and was told by the radio operators that the emergency radio had been destroyed. He ordered them to the starboard lifeboat; the port boat was gone as was the 1st mate, so the captain feared he had fallen overboard along with the boat.

The ship sank in 7 minutes (gunners' report says 20 minutes). After having picked up his papers and donned his rubber suit (this is the Vaco suit, which is described in the section for lifeboat contents & survival), he headed for the lifeboat and by the time he reached it Thorstrand was so low in the water he could simply walk straight into the boat. He could see some men trying to lower the starboard aft boat and though one of the davits were broken they managed to do so with enormous effort. 1st Mate Solbak and Boatswain Walderhaug had ended up in the water while trying to launch the port midships boat(?), but had somehow managed to get back on the aft of the ship. With the help of some of the crew they were able to launch the port aft boat, which was a motor boat. The U-boat came up and Solbak was taken on board for questioning, but after having been told the captain had gone down with his ship the U-boat commander let him go and the U-boat took off.

The captain, meanwhile, had been busy picking up those who had jumped overboard, greatly aided by the little lamps attached to their suits. In the captain's boat there were 2 men with broken legs (Mess Boy Morrison and Engineer Brudevold), Gunner Eriksen had injured his back, while Mechanic Johansen had burn injuries. The boats stayed together until daylight (March 7), at which time they realized 4 men were missing. They were 1st Cook Olaf B. Olsen from Tvedestrand, 2nd Cook Jørgen Stormoen from Rjukan, 3rd Engineer Olav Olsen and Mechanic Hans Lines. The cooks and the engineer had been in the galley when the explosion occurred and had probably been killed immediately. It would appear that Mechanic Lines had fallen overboard and drowned as he hadn't had time to put his safety suit on (he could not swim).

The motorboat with the 1st mate in command towed the other 2 boats until that afternoon. The starboard aft boat had initially had 8 men, including 4 passengers, but no navigator so the 3rd mate and 3 men had gone on board. However, this boat turned out to be useless so those who were in it were distributed in the other 2 boats; 5 joined those in the captain's boat and 7 transferred to the 1st mate's boat. It was decided to place the wounded in the motorboat and head east in the hope of encountering traffic or reaching land before the other lifeboat, whereupon they separated. Nothing further was heard from them until a telegram was received from London on the 25th that they had reached Africa after having been picked up on the 8th day by a convoy escort.

Captain Stave estimated they were about 556 miles off Flores Island (Azores). The days went by; ships were seen a couple of times but instead of responding to their emergency signals the ships turned and disappeared. On Tuesday the 16th, the captain estimated they would see land the next day, which turned out to be true, and 11 days after they had been torpedoed they landed at Lajes at 11:30 in the morning, having been towed the last 2 miles by a motorboat which came out. They got a splendid reception with the locals doing everything in their power to make them comfortable while there. On Apr. 4, they were sent with a Portugese ship to Lisbon where a temporary report was given to the Norwegian Consulate, before continuing to New York. The captain ends his story by saying: "Thorstrand was a great ship and we were fond of her; it was tough to watch as she rose up and then went down, with her bow towards the sky as a threat to the enemy and a promise to us who were left behind in the lifeboats".

An inquiry was held in Lisbon on Apr. 14-1943. The captain, the 3rd mate, the 2nd engineer and Able Seaman Bakken (helmsman) were questioned.

For info, U-172 was also responsible for the attack on Bennestvet the year before - follow the link for details.

Crew & Passengers List:
* My Norwegian Guestbook has a message from the son of the 1st mate and here's a Guestbook message from the nephew of Gunnar Eriksen.
According to
this external page, Gunner Olsen later served on Tatra, Fernmoor, Washington Express and Tai Shan.
Able Seaman Andersen also served on
Arena.

Surviving Crew
Captain
Anthonius Stave
1st Mate*
Ivar K. Solbak
2nd Mate
Jens Christoffersen
3rd Mate
Trygve Nilssen
Radio Operator
Johan Rørvik
2nd Radio Operator
Vincent Slevin
(British)
Carpenter
Evald Pettersen
Boatswain
Asbjørn Walderhaug
Able Seaman
Odd Halvorsen
Able Seaman
Kaare Bakken
Able Seaman
Per Svendsen
Able Seaman*
Gunnar Eriksen
Able Seaman
Ole Huglen
Able Seaman
Nils Kaldefoss*
Able Seaman
Jens T. Andersen
Able Seaman
Olav Olsen
1st Engineer
Elias Hansen
2nd Engineer
Hans E. Jøramo
4th Engineer
Alf Bjordal
Refrig. Engineer
Peder Brudevold
Electr. Assistant
Harder Danielsen
Mechanic
Ludvig Johansen
Mechanic
Leif H. Nilsen
Mechanic
Oswald Warholm
Mechanic
Sigurd Skovly
Mechanic
Ingvald Bjørndal
Mechanic
Bertil Sommelius**
(Swedish)
Oiler
Edvin Honningsvaag
Steward
Nils K. Nilsen
2nd Steward
Sigurd Markussen
Mess Boy
George Morrison
(British)
Saloon Boy
Clifford Roberts
(British)
Gunner
Sigvald Pedersen
Gunner
Knut M. Olsen
Gunner
Arne Eriksen
Surviving Passengers
John R. Cruikshank
(British)
Stanley Harper
(British)
Bernhard Leak
(British)
Maurice Robinson
(British)
Godfrey E. L. Walker
(British)
Meyer Savage
(British)
G. Warne
(American)
Gunder Osberg
(British?)
Casualties:

3rd Engineer
Olav Olsen

Mechanic
Hans Lines

Cook
Olaf B. Olsen

2nd Cook
Jørgen Stormoen

* The Norwegian Mosdale had an Able Seaman N. Kaldefoss, but can't be sure it's the same person.

** This Swedish seaman experienced the peculiar backwards voyage of the Norwegian Vardefjell, and I also believe he sailed on Dagfred, follow the links for more information.

Back to Thorstrand on the "Ships starting with T" page.

Other ships by this name: Thor Dahl later had two other ships by this name, one M/S built 1949, sold Hamburg 1961 (Transeuropa, Florita). The other was a tanker, built 1962, sold Istanbul 1967 (Payas). This external website has more info on these ships.

The text on this page was compiled with the help of: "Nortraships flåte", J. R. Hegland, "Sjøforklaringer fra 2. verdenskrig", Volume II (Norwegian Maritime Museum) and misc. other for cross checking info. The captain's report and picture were received from Narve Sørensen (ex Thor Dahl employee).

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