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Re: Virgo Fidelis
Posted by: Platon Alexiades (IP Logged)
Date: February 26, 2005 12:28PM

Hello Jan-Olof,

Regarding VIRGO FIDELIS. I have no record of any British or Allied submarines operating off San Sebastian at this period (12-17 July 1941). THRASHER was in Alexandria between patrols. I know she is attributed to this submarine by both Rohwer and Marc Saibène (author of "La marine marchande française en guerre") but this is an error.
There was no sound reason to send a submarine off San Sebastian at the time (unless an ULTRA signal had reported the move of a U-boat or supply ship). At the time submarines were patrolling off Brest to prevent a breakout by SCHARNHORST and GNEISENAU so to divert one to San Sebastian did not make sense. Their operations were usually North of 46.00 N. There was no submarine on passage from the UK to Gibraltar which could have been diverted to San Sebastian on account of an ULTRA signal. Two submarines were on passage from Halifax to Gibraltar but they appear to have gone straight to their destination without a detour and anyway did not report an attack.
The closest attack is that of the Polish submarine SOKOL which fired 4 torpedoes at a large unidentified transport at 0424/15 July 1941 in position 46.41 N/02.30 W. This vessel was reported escorted by 2 destroyers, course 310 at 12 knots. Anyone can help me identify it?
Could VIRGO FIDELIS have been attacked by a U-boat or perhaps, if it had a French crew, deliberately ran aground for sabotage?

Best regards,


Subject Written By Posted
  Virgo Fidelis Jan-Olof 09/08/2004 11:39AM
  Re: Virgo Fidelis michel 09/08/2004 02:06PM
  Re: Virgo Fidelis Theodor Dorgeist 09/08/2004 03:15PM
  Re: Virgo Fidelis Jan-Olof 09/08/2004 04:40PM
  Re: Virgo Fidelis michel 09/09/2004 02:17AM
  Re: Virgo Fidelis Platon Alexiades 02/26/2005 12:28PM
  Re: Virgo Fidelis Platon Alexiades 02/26/2005 02:00PM
  Re: Virgo Fidelis Jan-Olof 02/26/2005 06:32PM
  Re: Virgo Fidelis crolick 02/27/2005 09:05AM
  Re: Virgo Fidelis Jan-Olof 02/27/2005 09:12AM
  Re: Virgo Fidelis Theodor Dorgeist 02/27/2005 10:13AM
  Re: Virgo Fidelis crolick 02/27/2005 12:34PM
  Re: Virgo Fidelis Jan-Olof 02/27/2005 01:56PM
  Re: Virgo Fidelis crolick 02/27/2005 05:07PM
  Re: Virgo Fidelis crolick 03/07/2005 03:07PM

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