Fate of some sailing vessels

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Martin Vyn
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Fate of some sailing vessels

Post by Martin Vyn » Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:08 pm

Hi, I am looking for information on the final fate of a number of American/Canadian sail barges of the thirties/forties:

A.H. Olwine: (sometimes, apparently unofficial, called A.E. Olwine), American, wooden hull, 1.077 grt., built 1917 by Clooney Const. & Tow Co., Westlake, La. I found somewhere (Rhode Island wrecksite) that she hit rocks on Nov 16, 1942 near John Russell Pope estate, Bailey's Beach, Newport during a storm and was total-loss. But this source mentions a “2nd loss date” of Aug. 18, 1944 while her last entry is in Lloyd’s 1944-45 so I wonder if Nov. 16, 1942 is the whole story.

Allegany: American, wooden hull, 2.299 grt. Built 1921 by Gildersleeve Const. Co., Gildersleeve, Conn. Last mentioned by Lloyd’s 1944-45.

Andrew McDonald: American, 2.218 grt. Built 1918. I can find her in Lloyd’s 1933-34 but not much more.

Beattie: American, wooden hull, 1.117 grt. Built 1904 by Kelley, Spear & Co., Bath, Me. Last found in Lloyd’s 1940-41.

Belmont: American, 1.491 grt., built 1891 by Russell & Co., Port Glasgow. Last found in Lloyd’s 1940-41.

Betsy Ross: Canadian, ex American, wooden hull, 1.505 grt., built 1917 by Seaborne Shipyards Co., Tacoma, Wash. Around 1935 (does anybody know exactly which year?) from American to Canadian registry. Last found in Lloyd’s 1942-43

Thank you.

Joe R
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Re: Fate of some sailing vessels

Post by Joe R » Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:48 pm

name Official number Flag IMO
Year built Date launched Date completed
1891 29/04/1891
Vessel type Vessel description
Cargo Steel Sailing Vessel 3 Masted Barque
Builder Yard Yard no
Russell & Co, Port Glasgow Bay Yard 262

Tonnage Length Breadth Depth Draft
1528 grt / 1415 nrt / 236.4 ft 38.1 ft 21.8 ft
Engine builder ,
Engine detail

First owner First port of register Registration date
J. G. Hall, Boston, Belmont Shipping Co, Yarmouth NS. Glasgow
Other names

Subsequent owner and registration history
1915 register moved to Boston Massachusetts.
1921 Belmont Transportation Co, Mobile. US/ON 212949.
Vessel history
Maiden voyage Cardiff - Rio de Janeiro with coal.
1928 converted to a coal barge.

End year Fate / Status
1940 Sank 31/01/1940
Disposal Detail

FROM Clydeships.co.uk
May help or maybe not

Joe R

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Martin Vyn
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Re: Fate of some sailing vessels

Post by Martin Vyn » Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:13 am

Hi Joe, yes it helps - a few "pieces of the puzzle" put in place.

Thank you very much.

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