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    <pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2003 00:06:58 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Operation Claymore</title>
      <link>http://warsailors.com/forum/read.php?1,7104,7150#msg-7150</link>
      <author>Axel Kuehn</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Good morning Erling!

I'll put EILENAU on my ?? list of potential scrappings in Norway after WW II. Also I'll have a look into Lloyd's List and/or Confidential Index when I get next to Guildhall Library in London - I am pretty sure that movements will have been reported (tugs with wreck or something similar).

Thanks, Axel]]></description>
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      <title>Re: Operation Claymore</title>
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      <author>Erling Skjold</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hi Axel,
I don't have information about the place were the Eilenau was broken up.
But by checking this, I discovered that she was raised from June to August 1948 (not 1951!) by Norsk Bjergningskompani's &quot;Traust&quot; and &quot;Uller&quot;.
Source; Archive of Norsk Bjergningskomp.

Best regards
Erling]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2003 22:43:20 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Operation Claymore</title>
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      <author>Trygve</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Thanks, Atle.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2003 07:15:11 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Operation Claymore</title>
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      <author>atle wilmar</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hello Trygve,
MYRLAND was allowed to leave Svolvær with 10 persons, arrived at Torshavn 7.3. Requisitioned as Minesweeper by RN 1.4.1941, Firefloat from 9.1944. Returned 1946.
Regards
Atle Wilmar]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2003 01:39:26 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Operation Claymore</title>
      <link>http://warsailors.com/forum/read.php?1,7104,7119#msg-7119</link>
      <author>Trygve</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I wonder what happened to MYRLAND during the raid? She was a seiner from my hometown, Haugesund.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2003 12:40:40 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Operation Claymore</title>
      <link>http://warsailors.com/forum/read.php?1,7104,7111#msg-7111</link>
      <author>Axel Kuehn</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hi Jordi,

da in this case does not mean danish! It is is the German shortening for &quot;dampfer&quot; = steamer; df is &quot;dampffischereifahrzeug&quot; = steam trawler etc..

I know why I sometimes prefer the English language :-)

Cheers, Axel]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2003 09:15:04 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Operation Claymore</title>
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      <author>Jordi Comas</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hi Theo!

Danish ship Thielbek (2.815 Tn) was sunk there?
There were another Thielbek (2.815 Tn) sunk on 3/5/45 by RAF aircraft in Lubeck Bay.

Do you think if both ships are the same or not?

I think they are the same ship, and Thielbek was sunk on 3/5/45. Could anyone give any light about that?

Jordi]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2003 08:16:05 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Operation Claymore</title>
      <link>http://warsailors.com/forum/read.php?1,7104,7109#msg-7109</link>
      <author>Jordi Comas</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Thank you very much Erling, Axel and Theo!!!]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2003 07:55:46 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Operation Claymore</title>
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      <author>Theodor Dorgeist</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hallo Jordi,

ich habe in der alten Verlustliste auch die PASAJES, aber dieses ist mit Sicherheit falsch wie ich aus der Schadensakte des Schiffes weiß. Das Schiff wurde drei Wochen später durch britischen Luftangriff beschädigt.
Auch die aufgeführte THIELBEK hat nach meinen Unterlagen ( auch Schiffsakte eingesehen) an diesen Datum keinen
Schaden erlitten sondern einige Wochen vorher und nachher  durch Luftangriffe.
Jetzt ist nut die Frage simmt die Angabe

 Myrland 321 BRT 1918gebaut. britische Prise ???

Grüße

Theo
3. 3. 41
D APP V 6301 Krebs	25     376 + B/DD Somali		67.07 N 13.51 E	A
D da	Bernhard Schulte	23   1058 # B/DD Tartar		61.55 N 05.07 E	A
D da	Eilenau		10   1404 + B/DD Tartar		Vaagsö		A
D df	Hamburg		11   5470 + B/DD Tartar		Vaagsö		A

4. 3. 41
N sf	Andö			05       99 + B/DD Eskimo, Bedouin, Legion
									Svolvaer		S
D da	Felix Heumann	21   2468 + B/DD Eskimo etc	Svolvaer		A
N df	Grötö			73     100 # B/DD Eskimo etc	Svolvaer		S
D da	Gumbinnen		22   1381 + B/DD Eskimo etc	Svolvaer		A
N dp	Mira			91   1152 + B/DD Bedouin		Svolvaer		A
N mf	Myrland		18     321 p B/DD Eskimo etc	Svolvaer		P
D da	Pasajes		23   1996 # B/DD Eskimo etc	Svolvaer		A
D df	Rissen		15     260 # B/DD Eskimo etc	Svolvaer		A
D da	Thielbek		39   2815 # B/DD Eskimo etc	Svolvaer		A]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2003 06:02:49 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Operation Claymore</title>
      <link>http://warsailors.com/forum/read.php?1,7104,7107#msg-7107</link>
      <author>Axel Kuehn</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hi Erling,

EILENAU raised and b.u. 1951 - this &quot;raises&quot; my interest!!

Any info where she was broken up??

Best regards, Axel]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2003 05:42:32 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Operation Claymore</title>
      <link>http://warsailors.com/forum/read.php?1,7104,7106#msg-7106</link>
      <author>Erling Skjold</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hi,
The following vessels were total losses (not raised ever or after the war):
* German SS and fishfactory Hamburg (1911/5470) - still as wreck in Svolvær harbour.
* German SS Felix Heumann (1921/2468). Raised in 1947 and repaired.
* German SS Eilenau (1910/1404). Raised in 1951 and broken up.
* German auxiliary trawler NN-04 / Krebs (1925/376). Wreck not located.
* Norwegian coastal express SS Mira (1891/1152). Wreck is located outside Svolvær.

Raised during the war:
* German SS Bernhard Schulte (1923/1058). Raised May 41 and repaired.
* German SS Gumbinnen (1922/1381). Raised March 41 and repaired.
* German trawler SS Rissen (1915/261). Raised during 1941 and repaired.
* Norwegian trawler Andø (1905/99). Later raised. Final fate?
* Norwegian trawler Grøtø (1873/99). Raised and repaired.

The SS Pasajes was not in Lofoten during the raid, but appears in a lot of sources as lost during operation Claymore. Probably from a mix-up with the Gumbinnen in British sources.

Best regards
Erling]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2003 05:05:22 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Operation Claymore</title>
      <link>http://warsailors.com/forum/read.php?1,7104,7105#msg-7105</link>
      <author>Jordi Comas</author>
      <description><![CDATA[&quot;Eilenau&quot; also was sunk.
And &quot;Pasajes&quot;?]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2003 04:30:12 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>Operation Claymore</title>
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      <author>Jordi Comas</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hi friends

On 4/3/41 british commandos attacked german installations and ships in Lofoten islands (Norway). I know that germans ships &quot;Felix Heumann&quot;, &quot;Mira&quot; and &quot;Hamburg&quot; were sunk and &quot;Bernhard Schulte&quot; and &quot;Gumbinnen&quot; were captured. The question is if two more ships, called &quot;Pasajes&quot; and &quot;Eilenau&quot;, were sunk or captured. Does anyone could tell me this?

Thank you
Jordi]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2003 04:17:43 -0700</pubDate>
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