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      <title>[Ship Forum] Asking</title>
      <link>http://warsailors.com/forum/read.php?1,42707,42707#msg-42707</link>
      <author>Fred Mallia</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Are there books regarding losses of german small warshipslike,trawlers,drifters,MTB,minesweepers,and aux.I got German Surface Vessels book 2,but it got only names,no date of loss,or cause,or place.Need help because there&quot;s a lot of ships.Please help.Thanks Fred]]></description>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Re: Italian Etruria</title>
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      <author>Comas</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Thank you very much Brian!

Good week end
Jordi]]></description>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Re: More German trawlers WW1</title>
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      <author>BrianV</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hi Joe,

I have not been able to identify the attackers, but the circumstances were as follows:
Admiral von Schroeder, Crefeld, Rinteln and Heinrich Bruns (note spelling) were escorting the damaged submarine UC-55 through the defensive minefields when they came under attack by a cruiser/destroyer force in Fanø Bay, on Jutland's west coast, south of Esbjerg.
I have the von Schroeder and Rinteln as severely damaged, run ashore and scuttled; Crefeld as mined and sunk, Heinrich Bruns sunk by gunfire, all in position 55.50 N, 08.10 E.
Details of how the interception occcurred and composition of the attacking force would be welcomed.

Regards, Brian]]></description>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Re: Italian Etruria</title>
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      <author>BrianV</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hello Jordi,

Etruria sailed from Trapani @ 1730/21 in company of German  MFPs F.478, F.482, F.483 and F.484 under escort of DE Ardito and TB Angelo Bassini.
After rescuing survivors all units returned to Trapani without further attacks.

Regards, Brian]]></description>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Italian Etruria</title>
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      <author>Comas</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hello all!

When Etruria (2633 GRT/06) was torpedoed and sunk by british aircraft on 22/12/42 NNW off Marettimo, she was escorted by two italian torpedoboats, do you know wich?

Thank you very much
Jordi]]></description>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Re: Gay Viking</title>
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      <author>Roy Martin</author>
      <description><![CDATA[There are four pages about this operation, plus a couple of photographs, in a HMSO booklet (Brit govt.) British Coaster 1939-1945.  I can copy it if it is of help?

Regards,

Roy]]></description>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] More German trawlers WW1</title>
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      <author>Joe R</author>
      <description><![CDATA[On 1 Sept. '17 the Admiral von Schroder, Rinteln and
Heinrich Burns were sunk by gunfire. The first two are
German Navy trawlers. The Crefeld may have been involved
in this action. Can someone provide details? Casualties?
Attacking force(s)? Any info will be greatly appreciated.

Thank-you
Joe R]]></description>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Re: Yewdale</title>
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      <author>airintel</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hi Brian,

Thanks very much for that. The other ship in the photo looked to have four letters on her name board, but it was a bit too indistinct to tell for sure.

Best regards,

Dave Wright]]></description>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Re: Nanei Maru</title>
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      <author>Axel van Eesbeeck</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hallo Ralph

Thank you very much for your answer. 


best regards
Axel]]></description>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Re: Yewdale</title>
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      <author>BrianV</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hi Dave,

I have the following:
Yewdale, Grimsby to Normandy with coal, on 5/10/44 she was clipped at the stern in heavy weather at 2345 hrs by the Danish s/s Aarø and drifted ashore after losing both anchors.

I also have her damaged by a German shore battery on 26/5/40 and by a German air attack on 3/2/40. Looks like she was a favorite target....

Regards, Brian]]></description>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Yewdale</title>
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      <author>airintel</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I have a photo of a ship named Yewdale grounded on a beach, with its stern entangled in that of another beached ship. I assume this is the the 1929 Yewdale, built by Scott Bowling which hit a wreck and was beached on Omaha Beach, Normandy 30 September 1944. Can anyone provide more information on this loss, including the identity of the vessel Yewdale hit?

Thanks very much!

Dave Wright]]></description>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Re: Steam trawler Achievement</title>
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      <author>roger</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hello Ron/Trevor
ACHIEVMENT GY203 was around at least up untill 1896 so not the vessel in question.

regards 
Roger]]></description>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Re: Gay Viking</title>
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      <author>Maxine</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hi ,

Please may I ask what information you are searching for regarding the Gay Viking??  I may have a few details that may be of use.

Kind Regards

Maxine]]></description>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Re: Nanei Maru</title>
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      <author>Ralph</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Nanei Maru was completed in Dec 42 by Osaka Iron, Osaka, and sunk by Uss Jack on 19 Feb 1944.  She was not the ex-Manatawny and this is another one of those unfortunate mistakes that have crept into early reports and has never been rectified.
Ralph]]></description>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Nanei Maru</title>
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      <author>Axel van Eesbeeck</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hallo

Miramar lists two ships with the same name &quot;Nanei Maru&quot; and the same date of loss and reason (19.02.1944 BRT / submarine)

1. Nanei Maru

is the former US freighter Manatawany - 5543 BRT - (i have her sunk on 10.12.1941 at manila by japanes aircraft) 

was she ever raised and then in japanese service ? if yes, what was the fate of this ship ?

2. Nanei Maru

a new built tankship of 5106 BRT finished in december 1942


what is correct ?

best regards
Axel]]></description>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Re: HMS Egret Casualty List</title>
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      <author>mjbollinger</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hi everyone,

For those those interested, I can now identify the four individuals who perished aboard HMS Egret but whose names are not listed amongst the casualties.  These four people were:

Squadron Leader Cuthbert William Prideaux Selby of the RAF Volunteer Reserve

RAF Flying Officer Paul Geoffrey Scorer

Telegraphists Signals Officers Shields and Keith (full names unknown).

So the casualty list on HMS Egret should be 198, not 194 as reported.

Marty]]></description>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Re: Southern Gem (not Suderøy VI)</title>
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      <author>Trygve</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Siri

Your text is correct.

Knutsen O.A.S. bought the whaler SOUTHERN GEM from Southern Sealing and Whaling Co. Ltd the fall of 1936 and renamed her SUDERØY VI. After that she was catching for Knutsen O.A.S.' factory SUDERØY in the Antarctic every season until the war made this impossible.

Southern Sealing and Whaling Co. Ltd took delivery of a new and much larger whaler with the name SOUTHERN GEM in october 1937. This was the one Seamans father was serving on. 


--------------------------------------------------------

As a sidenote; Wrecktec Rons information is partly wrong and may cause more confusion if not corrected.

SUDERØY VI wasnt broken up in 1983. 
After a radical rebuild in 1953 she was motor-passengervessel STOLMEN. As such she was pretty legendary serving the though outer passenger/cargo-service Haugesund-Bergen. In 1973 she was laid up (I remember her from this stage). The winter 1983 she was scuttled in the 700m deep Nedstrandsfjord between Haugesund and Stavanger.

-

SUDERØY VII and KOS 27 is not the same vessel. 
These were two out of I think 5 sisters. Both were whalers on order at Smiths Dock (-most probably by Knutsen O.A.S. and AS Kosmos) to be delivered in 1939 but taken over by Royal Navy before delivery (along with their sisters) and put to service as H.M.S. GRASMERE and H.M.S. WINDERMERE. 
Knutsen O.A.S. then took over GRASMERE(?) after the war and renamed her SUDERØY VII. She was then catching for SUDERØY until 1958 when she was laid up until she was sold to Peru in 1961 as EL CONQUISTADOR. Her later fate is unknown to me.
Kosmos took over WINDERMERE(?) after the war and renamed her KOS 27. She was the catching for Kosmos' factories KOSMOS IV and KOSMOS III until 1958. She was the broken up in Grimstad in 1966.
We have discussed these sisters at length earlier in this forum as there are some unclear spots in their history, -motly regarding who became who. Use the search-function.]]></description>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Swedish mv CARLSHAMN building 1949-50</title>
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      <author>Roger Jordan</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I would be grateful to anyone who can confirm that Ekensbergs Varf A/B, Stockholm, vessel number 192, which was launched as CARLSHAMN, was ordered by Sven Salén. It was sold during fitting out to Zim Israel, and entered service as ETROG (1901 tons gross) in February 1950.
Regards
Roger]]></description>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Re: Bergensfjord ship photo 1913-1915</title>
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      <author>siri</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I could send you one of the pictures that I have on this page
http://www.warsailors.com/singleships/bergensfjord.html

Just pick the one(s) you like best, and I'll see if I can dig up the originals. Not sure if the quality is good enough though....]]></description>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Re: Bergensfjord ship photo 1913-1915</title>
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      <author>Norsksonn</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Thanks Geir,
I stand corrected...I think the information I found was suggesting both were used. Either way...it is good to know. I'm trying to find a picture from a Norwegian archive or British. The pictures online are mainly postcard size. 

My grandparents came to America on the ship in 1915. Also, if anyone has a copy of the ship's menu from this period...would be a nice addition. I have one dated 1962 from the Bergensfjord...but it must have been the newer ship as the Bergensfjord I was scrapped in Italy in 1959. 

thanks.
Norsksonn]]></description>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Re: &quot;Belridge&quot; / &quot;U 16&quot;</title>
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      <author>tenil</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Excellent Roger!
Thanks a lot for a very fast respond to my query.

Best regards
Terje]]></description>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Re: &quot;Belridge&quot; / &quot;U 16&quot;</title>
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      <author>roger</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hello Terje,
Only a little from the London Times.
Whilst on a voyage New York for Amsterdam she was hit in the bow by a torpedo. She was taken in tow by the Dutch (Rotterdam) tug OCCAAN? and discharged her oil cargo at Thameshaven.
Her captain named Olsen and 39 crew were saved.

regards
Roger]]></description>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] &quot;Belridge&quot; / &quot;U 16&quot;</title>
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      <author>tenil</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hello All!

I am seeking some information about the Norwegian tanker &quot;Belridge&quot; (7020grt./1914) which was attacked by &quot;U 16&quot; (Kptl. Claus Hansen) when in a position 7 miles south of Folkstone on the 19.02.1915.

Not much to be found about this incident. Anybody who have som more details?

Thanks in advance for all possible help!

Best regards
Terje Nilsen]]></description>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Re: Steam trawler Achievement</title>
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      <author>trevor</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hi Ron
there was a trawler called Achievment similar age 
Built 1869
GY 203 / GY 286
Don't know what happened to her though

cheers]]></description>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] norw. Barque CARMEL / norw. Archive</title>
      <link>http://warsailors.com/forum/read.php?1,42683,42683#msg-42683</link>
      <author>Loerscher</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hello,

refering to my post from 18.06. re. barque CARMEL, I meanwhile have an answer from riksarkivet:

************

The file concerning the barque Carmel in the archives of Handelsdepartementet, 1. sjømannskontor, series Dm, box 4, contains only documents about the settlement of insurance for the perished seamen.

The file in the archives of Norsk Vare-krigsforsikring AS, series Df, parcel 97, contains only documents about the settlement of insurance for the cargo.

In the archives of Handelsdepartementet, Sjøfartskontoret, series Da – Skips-mapper (”Ships’ files”), box 188, there is a file containing the certificates of the ship and documents from the city court of Kristiania after the loss. About what happened to the ship the court had no other information than that the ship, which intended to go from Fredrikstad to West Hartlepool, was found on June 12th 1917 by British Navy vessels, abandoned by its crew, except for a body lying in the cabin.

Unless a log from the German submarine that attacked Carmel should exist, we would not consider it possible to obtain more accurate information in this case.

**************

So, even the Norwegians don't know exactly what happened to this vessel, I'm now sure that her entire crew perished in this incident (Rolf mentiones 9 - 10 crew lost).

We now really have to wait for an find in the german war diaries !

Oliver]]></description>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Re: Dollar Oriental SS Co in China</title>
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      <author>Andreas von Mach</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Ralph!

There was an article
David H.Grover
&quot;Dollar Line Steamers On The Yangtze River&quot;
in &quot;Steamboat Bill&quot; Fall 1990 Number 195 p.172-178

ROBERT DOLLAR II built 1915 as MEI CHUEN for Standard Oil Company by Sing Fah Shung in Shanghai
798grt 190ft (oa)x30ftx8ft 2 engines 240rpm 13,5kts
24th April 1924 beached avoiding sinking after hit a rock while going downriver from Chungking

ALICE DOLLAR built 1921 Kiangnan Yard
1115grt 205ft (oa) 197 ft(pp?) x 31x10ft (depth)x8ft draught
1925 sold to China Navigation Company (Butterfield &amp; Swire, British flag) and renamed WANTUNG
At the beginging of WW II in Pacific seized by Japanese and renamed HEIZAN MARU
1943 bombbed and sunk by American bombers

AGNES DOLLAR built 1913 purchased 1924
1327grt 222ft
1924 already sold to lumber company in the Pacific Northwest

DOLLAR tender
sold to Moller Company a MERRY MOLLER
1950s still in service

avm]]></description>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Black Sea refugee vessels 1944</title>
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      <author>paulh</author>
      <description><![CDATA[In 1944 a number of small ships took Jewish refugees from Constanta to Istanbul.  They were of Bulgarian or Turkish registry.  I am looking for specifications, year of build, builder, and fate of the following:

MILKA - 2 voyages arriving 31 Mar 1944 (410 refugees) and 4 May 1944 (433 refugees)
Built 1943 by Teodor Seljabov,Taros, 111 GRT, 24.7x6.35x2.7m 1 Skoda Diesel, 10.0kts , after WW renamed VOLA, 1949 taken by the Bulgarian navy, renamed VESLEC (VESLETZ), 1958 transferrd to DOSO  and in 1972 (Sport Club Varna of the Youth Otganisation). Still extant  1993.

MARITZA - 2 voyages, arrived 12 Apr 1944 (238),  and
22 May 1944 (266).
180 tons, Bulgarian flag.
Foundered 31 May 1944 off Bulgarian coast, no refugees on board.

BELASITZA - arrived late Apr 1944 (273)
As a Turkish schooner it had stranded on the Bulgarian coast in 1942 and then rebuilt with a motor.
		
KAZBEK - arrived 10 Jul 1944 (725 to 758)
Turkish steamer

MORINA - arrived 6 Aug 1944 (308)
motor vessel, 49 tons
	
BULBUL - arrived 6 Aug 1944 (410)
Turkish motor schooner

MEFKURE - (350 Refugees)
Sunk by Soviet submarine Shch-210, 5 Aug 1944, 5 survivors plus a few crew.

SALAH A-DIN - arrived Aug 1944 (547)
possibly built 1931 by Ahmed Selim, Rouad, Syria, 115 grt, 72.1 x 23.0 x 10.2;  wooden schooner.  Owned in1949 by Greek Govt, as MINLAX (ex-SALAH EL DINE '44) 

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      <description><![CDATA[Hi Joe,

Glad to be of help--your response made my weekend!

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      <author>Joe R</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hello Dave,By providing the off site link, you not only answered all my questions and some I was planning to ask! Thanks for your excellent reply. You made my whole weekend!
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Re: Dutch GENOTA May 1942</title>
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      <author>Martin Vyn</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Don

When GENOTA was intercepted warning shots and lightsignals informed the crew that the vessel should stop and should not signal. The captain dumbed the secret papers overboard. A boat with a 34-men Japanese boardingparty arrived who behaved gentlemanlike. Via Penang (May 17 to 23) the vessel was brought to Tarakan, arriving May 30. Loaded abt. 5.800 tons of oil for Yokohama, departed on June 1 and arrived June 17. There they remained until July 11 when the crew had to leave for an internment camp. As soon as they left the ship, the regime became much more severe. The captain and his 11 officers were shipped per NANKEI MARU to a camp in Formosa (Haito), arriving July 16, 1942. From the rest of the crew (all Chinese, I do not know how many) nothing was ever heard again. They were in this camp August 2, 1942 until October 24, 1944 and they had to work as oilmen and trimmers. Treatment and food was very bad. After a month the first engineer died and two months later the W.O. The survivors were later brought to another camp on Formosa and on Febr. 19, 1945 were shipped to Fukuoka-camp No. 9 in Japan (except the 2nd mate who was left behind for unknown reasons), where treatment was even worse. However, they all survived and so did the 2nd mate.

Sources: K.W.L. Bezemer - Ned. Koopvaardij in WW.II and ship's declaration.

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