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      <title>[Ship Forum] Re: Mariupol</title>
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      <author>Fred Mallia</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Thank you gentelmen,my german is non-existing too,but i got a english-german dictionary and it helps.Theo danke lovely list.]]></description>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Re: Russian Survey Vessel Kazbek</title>
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      <author>pothkan</author>
      <description><![CDATA[There was six different vessels named EL'BORUS&quot;:

Paddle steamer EL'BORUS&quot; (built Blackwall 1848), sunk 31.8.1855, raised 16.8.1860, returned to service 24.6.1861 as KAZBEK&quot;, 30.11.1874 renamed EL'BORUS&quot;, sunk 29.10.1887 (collision with British steamer MOLKINS TOWER)

Screw schooner EL'BORUS&quot; (built Blackwall 1855, by Carl J. Mare &amp; Co. as British merchant HARLINGEN, sold to Russian Navy 11.1856), 30.11.1874 renamed KAZBEK&quot;, 1892 transport, 1915 survey ship, 1920 in Bizerte, sold 16.2.1923 (further fate unknown) - this was &quot;your&quot; ship

Transport EL'BORUS&quot; (built 1862 in Astrakhan as LEZGIN&quot;, renamed 1871) - on Caspian Sea, scrapped 1925

Auxiliary minesweeper EL'BORUS&quot; (built 1898 in Kiel as Russian merchant, req. 1914), 28.12.1916 aux. netlayer, 12.6.1917 renamed CHOROKH&quot;, 1918 returned to civilian service, later Soviet CHOROKH, lost 1942

Oiler EL'BORUS&quot; (built 1914 as Belgian ELBRUZ, req. 1914), 1918 returned to civilian service, later Soviet EL'BRUS, 1933 SURAKHANNEFT, 1934 SURAKHANY, 1935 VALERIAN KUYBYSHEV, lost 1942

Transport EL'BORUS (launched 1916 in Nikolayev), finished 1935 as submarine tender EL'BRUS]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 15:06:13 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Re: Italian submarine AMETISTA</title>
      <link>http://warsailors.com/forum/read.php?1,52222,52392#msg-52392</link>
      <author>de domenico</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I am very glad to hear this, Platon. I tried to convince him that your database was more than enough, but he made the trip to Rome all the same. Every road leads to Rome, after all...]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 14:36:03 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Re: Achille Rastelli</title>
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      <author>BrianV</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Deeply chagrined of hearing this. Over the years I had been in touch with him many times, he will be deeply missed. My thoughts are with his family.

Brian Viglietti]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 13:23:01 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Re: Norness</title>
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      <author>emmar</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Naess Lion: does the name Bilderbeek ring a bell? He sailed quite a few years for Normess, first Astrid, later Lion.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 12:28:31 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Re: Italian submarine AMETISTA</title>
      <link>http://warsailors.com/forum/read.php?1,52222,52389#msg-52389</link>
      <author>Platon Alexiades</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Francesco:

As a follow up you may be interested to know that I have met the originator of your request, Pierangelo Manuele, a very nice person. By chance, he sat next to me for two days at the Ufficio Storico and we had an interesting chat. He had a look at my database and copied some info relating to AMETISTA. The world is small!

All the best,

Platon]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 08:54:01 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Re: Achille Rastelli</title>
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      <author>Platon Alexiades</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I am shocked to hear that. He is a great loss to the community. He wrote great books. My sympathies to his family in their hour of grief.

Platon Alexiades]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 08:46:12 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Re: Achille Rastelli</title>
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      <author>gttf</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I did not know him personally, but I have appreciated his qualities as historian.
He missed us.

Fabrizio Gatti]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 02:45:13 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Re: Schooner Kantara</title>
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      <author>de domenico</author>
      <description><![CDATA[You're quite right, Paul, in my book there's a small sketch  of SOFIA CUPPA and she's definitely not a schooner.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 00:35:47 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Re: ship sunk at Paxos/PROMETHEUS</title>
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      <author>de domenico</author>
      <description><![CDATA[No, Theo, I don't think that this may be the same ship  Aris was loooking for.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 00:32:31 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Achille Rastelli</title>
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      <author>de domenico</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I'm sorry to report that Achille Rastelli, foremost Italian naval and maritime writer and expert, and my longtime friend, died yesterday night of the consequences of a car accident. He shall be sorely missed in my country, and across the ship-lovers' community elsewhere.

Francesco De Domenico]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 00:30:32 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Re: 24 7 1944</title>
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      <author>Theo</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hier die alte Liste in ABC - Form.											
		Ob damals alle Schiffe aufgeführt waren weiß ich nicht.											
		Unten sind auf jeden Fall neue Verluste aufgeführt.											
													
		Gruß											
													
		Theo											
													
24.7.1944	D	la	34		1000	+	B/Fl		Kiel	B			
24.7.1944	D	la	9477		150	+	B/Fl		Kiel	B			
24.7.1944	D	XD	A		4200	=	B/Fl		Kiel Howaldt	B			
24.7.1944	D	ma	Albert Jensen		5446	=	B/Fl		Holtenau	B			
24.7.1944	D	mp	Anna		88	=	B/Fl		Wellingdorf	B			
24.7.1944	D	mp	August	98	69	+	B/Fl		Wellingdorf	B			
24.7.1944	D	da	Axel	78	1540	+	B/Fl		Kiel DWK	B			
24.7.1944	D	ds	Baltrum		57	=	B/Fl		Wellingdorf	B			
24.7.1944	D	mp	Columbus	15	65	+	B/Fl		Wellingdorf	B			
24.7.1944	D	XD	D	30	4000	+	B/Fl		Kiel Howaldt	B			
24.7.1944	D	AYS	D 30 K Ave Maria Gratia Plena	24	25	+	B/Fl		Kiel	B			
24.7.1944	D	AYS	D 38 K Hans	13	14	+	B/Fl		Kiel	B			
24.7.1944	D	AYS	D 40 K Jupiter	11	9	+	B/Fl		Kiel	B			
24.7.1944	D	XD	Dock IX		1400	=	B/Fl		Kiel DWK	B			
24.7.1944	D	XD	Dock X		1400	=	B/Fl		Kiel DWK	B			
24.7.1944	D	XD	Dock XI		1600	=	B/Fl		Kiel DWK	B			
24.7.1944	D	mt	Dollart		233	=	B/Fl		Kiel Howaldt	B			
24.7.1944	D	dp	Dragör		69	+	B/Fl		Kiel Arsenal	B			
24.7.1944	D	dp	Düsternbrook 12		157	+	B/Fl		Kiel Seegarten	B			
24.7.1944	D	la	Elisabeth			=	B/Fl		Kiel	B			
24.7.1944	D	CL	Emden		5600	=	B/Fl		Kiel DWK	B			
24.7.1944	D	AR	Erwin Wassner	38	5150	+	b/Fl		Kiel Arsenal	B			
24.7.1944	D	AT	Eutin		35	+	B/Fl		Kiel Arsenal	B			
24.7.1944	D	AT	Falke	42	33	+	/FL		Kiel Arsenal	B			
24.7.1944	D	mx	Florian	27	26	+	B/Fl		Kiel	B			
24.7.1944	D	la	Friedrich			=	B/Fl		Kiel	B			
24.7.1944	D	mp	General Osorio		11590	=	B/Fl		Kiel Howaldt	B			
24.7.1944	D	ma	Harwo		278	+	B/Fl		Kiel	B			
24.7.1944	D	XD	Hebewerk 7	41	1700	+	B/Fl		Kiel Howaldt	B			
24.7.1944	D	mbt	Hella			=	B/Fl		Kiel Howaldt	B			
24.7.1944	D	lx	Hellingponton			=	B/Fl		Kiel DWK	B			
24.7.1944	D	kr	HK 2		2	+	B/Fl		Kiel Howaldt	B			
24.7.1944	D	kr	HK 3		40	+	B/Fl		Kiel Howaldt	B			
24.7.1944	D	mx	Howa II , II	25		=	B/Fl		Kiel Howaldt	B			
24.7.1944	D	da	Ida Joerck		954	=	B/Fl		Kiel	B			
24.7.1944	D	YW	K Wb 8	41	500	+	B/Fl		Kiel Arsenal	B			
24.7.1944	D	la	KA 42		300	+	B/Fl		Kiel Arsenal	B			
24.7.1944	D	la	KA 44		300	+	B/Fl		Kiel Arsenal	B			
24.7.1944	D	ma	Käthe Theunert	39	217	+	B/Fl		Dietrichsdorf	B			
24.7.1944	D	mf	Kie 5,22,30,33,45,61,64,88			+	B/Fl		Kiel	B			
24.7.1944	D	mf	Kiel 15 Neptunus	2	180	+	B/Fl		Kiel Howaldt	B			
24.7.1944	D	mf	Kiel 21 Orion	31	177	#	B/Fl		Kiel Kolbewerft	B			
24.7.1944	D	kr	Kran 3		150	=	B/Fl		Kiel GW	B			
24.7.1944	D	la	KV 1		200	+	B/Fl		Kiel Arsenal	B			
24.7.1944	D	YT	Laurin	42	23	+	B/Fl		Kiel	B			
24.7.1944	D	sy	Lis			+	B/Fl		Kiel	B			
24.7.1944	D	mbt	Lotte	21	6	+	B/Fl		Kiel Howaldt	B			
24.7.1944	D	mp	Ludwig		88	=	B/Fl		Wellingdorf	B			
24.7.1944	D	PM	M 598		671	=	B/Fl		Kiel	B			
24.7.1944	D	la	Martha			+	B/Fl		Neumühlen	B			
24.7.1944	D	AO	Merignac		767	=	B/Fl		Kiel Arsenal	B			
24.7.1944	D	PM	MT 2		563	+	B/Fl		Kiel	B	gehoben		
24.7.1944	D	la	No 5		50	+	B/Fl		Neumühlen	B			
24.7.1944	D	DD	Paul Jacobi		2171	=	B/Fl		Kiel GW	B			
24.7.1944	D	AT	Plön	44	47	+	B/Fl		Kiel Arsenal	B			
24.7.1944	D	lx	Ponton		50	+	B/Fl		Kiel Howaldt	B			
24.7.1944	D	lx	schw.Waschhaus			+	B/Fl		Kiel Howaldt	B			
24.7.1944	D	AO	Schwentine	37	230	+	B/Fl		Kiel Arsenal	B			
24.7.1944	D	mbt	Seeadler			+	B/Fl		Kiel Arsenal	B			
24.7.1944	D	mbt	Seekatze			+	B/Fl		Kiel DWK	B			
24.7.1944	D	APM	Sperrbrecher 25 Ingrid Horn	28	4006	+	B/Fl		Kiel	B			
24.7.1944	D	la	St S 22			+	B/Fl		Neumühlen	B			
24.7.1944	D	la	St S 39		197	#	B/Fl		Neumühlen	B			
24.7.1944	D	mx	St S 81	41	412	+	B/Fl		Neumühlen	B			
24.7.1944	D	lx	Standprobenponton			+	B/Fl		Kiel DWK	B			
24.7.1944	D	la	Steinwärder			+	B/Fl		Dietrichsdorf	B			
24.7.1944	D	mp	Strande		117	=	B/Fl		Kiel Seegarten	B			
24.7.1944	D	mf	Sumatra	16	112	+	B/Fl		Kiel	B			
24.7.1944	D	mbt	Teja			+	B/Fl		Kiel Howaldt	B			
24.7.1944	D	mbt	Thea		6	#	B/Fl		Kiel Howaldt	B			
24.7.1944	D	la	Transportponton			+	B/Fl		Kiel DWK	B			
24.7.1944	D	AO	Treene	38	656	+	B/Fl		Kiel Arsenal	B			
24.7.1944	D	SS	U 1164	43	769	§	B/Fl		Kiel Howaldt	B			
24.7.1944	D	SS	U 239	43	769	§	B/Fl		Kiel Howaldt	B			
24.7.1944	D	dp	Viktoria		81	=	B/Fl		Wellingdorf	B			
24.7.1944	D	dp	Vossbrook		167	=	B/Fl		Kiel Seegarten	B			
24.7.1944	D	la	Willi			+	B/Fl		Kiel	B			
24.7.1944	D	AT	Windsbach		25	+	B/Fl		Kiel DWK	B			
24.7.1944	D	DD	Z 39		2603	=	B/Fl		Kiel DWK	B			
													


		Neue Kieler Verluste 24.7.1944											
													
24.7.1944	D	kr	…		100	+			deutsche Werke				
24.7.1944	D	XD	Dock VII			+			deutsche Werke				
24.7.1944	D	Taucherboot	Düker V		75	+			Arsenal Kiel				
24.7.1944	D	mbt	Else			+			Gardenfähre- Bootshavfen				
24.7.1944	D	XD	Hebewerk- Ponton  			=			Kiel Howaldt				
24.7.1944	D	XD	Hebewerk- Ponton 5			+							
24.7.1944	D	La	K A 43		200	+			Arsenal Kiel				
24.7.1944	D	Heizboot	K Hz 59			+			Schwentine				
24.7.1944	D	la	KV VI		250	+			Arsenal Kiel				
24.7.1944	D	AO	Mittelgrund			+			Ölhof Wik				
24.7.1944	D	mbt	Motorboot 4644		35	+			Kiel DWK				
24.7.1944	D	mbt	Motorboot 46844		35	+			Kiel DWK				
24.7.1944	D	la	Schute 34			+			Vinetabrücke				
24.7.1944	D	La	Schute 60		200	+			Kiel DWK				
24.7.1944	D	kr	Schutenkran Nr. IV			+			Gardenfähre- Bootshavfen				
24.7.1944	D	SS	U 2323			+			Heikendorfer Bucht		4.8.44 gehoben 		Mine bei Angriff geworfen
24.7.1944	D	YW	Wohnboot 8			+			Kiel  		K Wb 8    ??]]></description>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Re: Lyon</title>
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      <author>Theo</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hier noch ein alter Lebenslauf der LYON.

D LYON F --- 4533 BRT; dt. JOHANNESBERGER DOXH 4467 BRT

1940: Erbaut durch die Chantiers &amp; Ateliers de Saint Nazaire ( Penhöet ) S.A., Rouen Bau-Nr. 262

1940,24.Feb. : Stapellauf als LYON für die Compagnie de Navigation d‘ Orbigny, La Rochelle.
10.Juni: Von deutschen Truppen in Grand Quevelly am Ausrüstungskai vorgefunden.
22.Juni: Durch die Hafenüberwachungsstelle Rouen zur Prise erklärt.
1941,5.Mai: Erfaßt durch die KMD Bordeaux für Einsatz als Transporter im Ostraum und Norwegen.
9.Juli: Im deutsch – französischen Prisenabkommen Deutschland zugesprochen als gute Prise.
26.Juli: Reichseigentum geworden auf Grund des Abkommens.
1942,12.Feb. : Probefahrt als LYON. [ DYAQ  - 4444 BRT ]
23.Feb. : Der Reederei Leth &amp; Co., Hamburg zur Bereederung vom OKM zugewiesen.
8.März: Fertigstellung als Truppentransporter für den Admiral der KMD Hamburg. – Einsatz durch
die KMD Stettin.
24.April: Prisengerichtsverfahren beim Prisenhof Hamburg eingestellt wegen des deutsch – 
französischen Prisenabkommen vom 9.7.1941.
11.Mai: Während der Überführung vor Dünkirchen auf Grund gelaufen, später abgeborgen und 
beim Einbringen vor der Hafeneinfahrt noch den SPERRBRECHER 170 gerammt.
28.Mai: Von Leth &amp; Co., Hamburg zur Bereederung übernommen für den Einsatz bei der KMD 
Stettin als Truppentransporter.
31.Aug. : Kurzzeitig für Versuche den NVK [ Nachrichten Versuchs Kommando ] z.V.gestellt.
12.Sept. : In Bremen von Leth &amp; Co. an die Deutsche Dampfschiffahrts – Gesellschaft “ Hansa “, Bremen zum Einsatz in der freien Fahrt übergeben.
10.Okt. : Neuer Messbrief ausgestellt mit 4467 BRT auf den Namen JOHANNESBERGER.
8.Dez. : Im SSR Bremen für das Deutsche Reich, Oberkommando der Kriegsmarine – Kriegsmarine- dienststelle Bremen als JOHANNESBERGER in Bewirtschaftung der DDG  “ HANSA “ eingetragen.
1943,16.März: Mit 7700 to Kohlen aus Danzig auf der Zwischenreise Tromsö – Kirkenes südlich Kiberg vom sowjetischen U – Boot M 104 durch einen Torpedotreffer im Vorschiff stark beschädigt und nach Schottenbruch in Pos. 69.58, 5 N - 30.3 E [vor dem Varangerfjord ] ohne Personenschäden auf Strand gesetzt. Totalverlust.
Die Reederei, welche das Schiff als Eigentum erhalten sollte, muß für die Bewirtschaftung 177.830 RM
Miete zahlen.


Gruß

Theo]]></description>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Re: ship sunk at Paxos/PROMETHEUS</title>
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      <author>Theo</author>
      <description><![CDATA[0486.) ts 	ELISE MARIE    RHQW
	Juni/Juli 1889 W. G. Armstrong, Mitchell &amp; Co., Low Walker  (550)
	3568/2587  10107/7328  5100
	97,68 12,74 9,00 m
	3fE 584x940x1524/1067    1600  (85)  2  11,2  381
	Wallsend Slipway &amp; Eng. Co. Ltd., Walls.    30
	                                                             2  11,2  407
	                                              1894 Reiherstieg S&amp;M (Sept. 1894 Hamb.)
	 (24.7.1889) &quot;Elise Marie&quot; AG Tankdampfschiffahrts Ges., Hamburg (DEU). 13.12.1894 D. A. P. G. 4.7.1914 &quot;Prometheus&quot; Griechische Marine. 22.4.1941 in Piraeus durch deutsche Flugzeuge versenkt, 1942 durch die Italiener geborgen und 14.7.1942 an Triest zur Reparatur. 10.9.1943 hier Übernahme durch die Kriegsmarine/Gruppe Süd. 1943 Mittelmeer Reederei GmbH in Hamburg (DEU) und 15.9.1943 in Fahrt. 7.1.1945 in Triest nach Sabotageanschlag gesunken.]]></description>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Re: ship sunk at Paxos/PROMETHEUS</title>
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      <author>Theo</author>
      <description><![CDATA[0486.) ts 	ELISE MARIE    RHQW
	Juni/Juli 1889 W. G. Armstrong, Mitchell &amp; Co., Low Walker  (550)
	3568/2587  10107/7328  5100
	97,68 12,74 9,00 m
	3fE 584x940x1524/1067    1600  (85)  2  11,2  381
	Wallsend Slipway &amp; Eng. Co. Ltd., Walls.    30
	                                                             2  11,2  407
	                                              1894 Reiherstieg S&amp;M (Sept. 1894 Hamb.)
	 (24.7.1889) &quot;Elise Marie&quot; AG Tankdampfschiffahrts Ges., Hamburg (DEU). 13.12.1894 D. A. P. G. 4.7.1914 &quot;Prometheus&quot; Griechische Marine. 22.4.1941 in Piraeus durch deutsche Flugzeuge versenkt, 1942 durch die Italiener geborgen und 14.7.1942 an Triest zur Reparatur. 10.9.1943 hier Übernahme durch die Kriegsmarine/Gruppe Süd. 1943 Mittelmeer Reederei GmbH in Hamburg (DEU) und 15.9.1943 in Fahrt. 7.1.1945 in Triest nach Sabotageanschlag gesunken.]]></description>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Re: Mariupol</title>
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      <author>phil morgan</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Nice to hear from you Theo, trust that you are well.

I came across this piece on the Stuttgart Seekrieg site.

8.10.1941
Schwarzes Meer
Dt. Truppen besetzen Mariupol am Asowschen Meer. Der unfertige sowj. Kreuzer Frunze, der noch rechtzeitig von Nikolaev nach Mariupul gebracht werden konnte, wird bei einem dt. Luftangriff beschädigt, während er vor der Besetzung Mariupuls unter Schlepperhilfe in Sicherheit gebracht wird.

My German is almost non-existant, but I get the gist of it, hope this helps Fred.

Best wishes 

Phil]]></description>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Re: US task force TF-38</title>
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      <author>Theo</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hier habe ich auch noch eine ganze Liste.

Nur wer vergleicht einmal alles ?


Excelliste ??

J dt Ayayuki Maru 43   2854 + A/CV Enterprise,Independence 
         Cap Paderan  B
J mf Banshu Maru No 63  44    533 + A/CV Wasp,Yorktown,Cabot,Cowpens
         Quinhon  B
J da Daikyu Maru  20   1518 + A/CV Wasp etc 14.15 N 109.10 E B
J FF Daito            940 = A/CV Wasp etc Quinhon  B
J da Eiman Maru  44   6968 + A/CV Wasp etc 14.15 N 109.10 E B
J da France Maru  19   5828 + A/CV Enterprise etc 19.10 N 109.00 E B
J PE Kaibokan 23  44     745 + A/CV Wasp etc 14.15 N 109.10 E B
J PE Kaibokan 27           745 = A/CV Wasp etc Quinhon  B
J PE Kaibokan 51  44     745 + A/CV Wasp etc 14.15 N 109.10 E B
J CL Kashii   41   5900 + A/CV Wasp etc 13.50 N 109.20 E B
J ma Kembu Maru  42   4519 + A/CV Wasp etc Quinhon  B
J dt Kyokusin Maru 44 10045 + A/CV Wasp etc 14.15 N 109.10 E B
J mt Nanryu Maru No 2 42     834 + A/CV Wasp etc 14.15 N 109.10 E B
J da Otusan Maru  43   6859 + A/CV Wasp etc 14.15 N 109.10 E B
J dt Ryuyo Maru  44   2863 + A/CV Wasp etc 14.15 N 109.10 E B
J mt San Luis Maru 28   7269 + A/CV Wasp etc 14.15 N 109.10 E B
J dt Shoei Maru  44   2764 + A/CV Wasp etc 14.15 N 109.10 E B
J da Tatebe Maru  11   4519 + A/CV Wasp etc 14.15 N 109.10 E B
J da Tatsuhato Maru 42   5396 + A/CV Wasp etc Quinhon  B
J FF  Ukuru           940 = A/CV Wasp etc  Quinhon  B
J da Yoshu Maru  16   5711 + A/CV Wasp etc Quinhon  B
J ma Yusei Maru  37     600 + A/CV Wasp etc  Quinhon   B
J  APP Fushimi Maru  46 + A/CV --   Vungtao  B
J da Kaishu Maru  23   1086 + A/CV --   Longhai  B
J da Keisho Maru  44   2840 + A/CV --   Longhai  B
J dt Akashi Maru  43 10045 + A/CV Hornet,Hancock,Lexington
         10.20 N 107.05 E B
J dt Ayanami Maru 44   2863 + A/CV Hornet etc Cap St Jacques B
J PC Ch 31   41     420 + A/CV Hornet etc 11.10 N 108.55 E B
J PC Ch 34            420 = A/CV Hornet etc v. Cam Ranh  B
J PC Ch 43   42     420 + A/CV Hornet etc 11.53 N 109.08 E B
J FF Chiburi  44     940 + A/CV Hornet etc 10.20 N 107.50 E B
J dt Eino Maru  25   5209 + A/CV Hornet etc 11.10 N 108.55 E B
J mt Horui Maru No 9 44     834 + A/CV Hornet etc Cap St Jacques B
J mt Iyasaka Maru No 3          834 = A/CV Hornet etc Cap St Jacques B
J PE Kaibokan 2           740 = A/CV Hornet etc Cap St Jacques B
J PE Kaibokan 17  44     745 + A/CV Hornet etc 10.20 N 107.50 E B
J PE Kaibokan 18           740 = A/CV Hornet etc Cap St Jacques B
J PE Kaibokan 19  44     745 + A/CV Hornet etc 10.20 N 107.50 E B
J PE Kaibokan 35  44     745 + A/CV Hornet etc 11.10 N 108.55 E B
J PE Kaibokan 43  44     745 + A/CV Hornet etc 11.10 N 108.55 E B
J ma Kensei Maru  42   4646 + A/CV Hornet etc 11.10 N 108.55 E B
J dt Koshin Maru  44   2855 + A/CV Hornet etc 11.10 N 108.55 E B
J mt Kumagawa Maru 34   7509 + A/CV Hornet etc 10.20 N 107.45 E B
J dt Kyoei Maru No 7 44   1189 + A/CV Hornet etc Cap St Jacques B
J APM Otowa Maru  20     220 + A/CV Hornet etc 11.53 N 109.08 E B
J PE P 103   18     980 + A/CV Hornet etc 11.10 N 108.55 E B
J mk Ramb II Go  38   3685 + A/CV Hornet etc v Cam Ranh  B
J da Shingi Maru         6800 = A/CV Hornet etc Cap St Jacques B
J da Shinsei Maru  44   2880 + A/CV Hornet etc 10.20 N 107.45 E B
J LC T 137            887 = A/CV Hornet etc Cap St Jacques B
J LC T 149   44     887 + A/CV Hornet etc 10.20 N 107.50 E B
J da Toyu Maru  44   4532 + A/CV Hornet etc 11.10 N 108.55 E B
J PM W 101   44     580 + A/CV Hornet etc 11.10 N 108.55 E B
J da Chefoo Maru  44   3218 + A/CV Essex,Ticonderoga,Langley
         Saigon  B
J mt Horai Maru No 9 43     834 + A/CV Essex etc Saigon  B
J ma Ikutagawa Maru 31   4013 + A/CV Essex etc Saigon  B
J ma Kanju Maru  26   7266 + A/CV Essex etc Saigon  B
J da Kenei Mari  44   4815 + A/CV Essex etc Saigon  B
J da Kiyo Maru  12   4428 + A/CV Essex etc Saigon  B
F CL Lamotte Picquet 26   7249 + A/CV Essex etc Saigon  B
F AS Octant   18     315 + A/CV Essex etc Saigon  B
J da Shinsei Maru No 17 19   2556 + A/CV Essex etc Saigon  B
J LC T 131   44     887 + A/CV Essex etc Saigon  B
J LC T 140   44     887 + A/CV Essex etc Saigon  B
F da Tai Poo Sek  81   1960 +A/CV Essex etc  Saigon  B
J da Taikyu Maru  44   1518 + A/CV Essex etc Saigon  B


Gruß

Theo]]></description>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Re: US task force TF-38</title>
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      <author>Theo</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hier habe ich auch noch eine ganze Liste.

Nur wer vergleicht einmal alles ?


Excelliste ??

J dt Ayayuki Maru 43   2854 + A/CV Enterprise,Independence 
         Cap Paderan  B
J mf Banshu Maru No 63  44    533 + A/CV Wasp,Yorktown,Cabot,Cowpens
         Quinhon  B
J da Daikyu Maru  20   1518 + A/CV Wasp etc 14.15 N 109.10 E B
J FF Daito            940 = A/CV Wasp etc Quinhon  B
J da Eiman Maru  44   6968 + A/CV Wasp etc 14.15 N 109.10 E B
J da France Maru  19   5828 + A/CV Enterprise etc 19.10 N 109.00 E B
J PE Kaibokan 23  44     745 + A/CV Wasp etc 14.15 N 109.10 E B
J PE Kaibokan 27           745 = A/CV Wasp etc Quinhon  B
J PE Kaibokan 51  44     745 + A/CV Wasp etc 14.15 N 109.10 E B
J CL Kashii   41   5900 + A/CV Wasp etc 13.50 N 109.20 E B
J ma Kembu Maru  42   4519 + A/CV Wasp etc Quinhon  B
J dt Kyokusin Maru 44 10045 + A/CV Wasp etc 14.15 N 109.10 E B
J mt Nanryu Maru No 2 42     834 + A/CV Wasp etc 14.15 N 109.10 E B
J da Otusan Maru  43   6859 + A/CV Wasp etc 14.15 N 109.10 E B
J dt Ryuyo Maru  44   2863 + A/CV Wasp etc 14.15 N 109.10 E B
J mt San Luis Maru 28   7269 + A/CV Wasp etc 14.15 N 109.10 E B
J dt Shoei Maru  44   2764 + A/CV Wasp etc 14.15 N 109.10 E B
J da Tatebe Maru  11   4519 + A/CV Wasp etc 14.15 N 109.10 E B
J da Tatsuhato Maru 42   5396 + A/CV Wasp etc Quinhon  B
J FF  Ukuru           940 = A/CV Wasp etc  Quinhon  B
J da Yoshu Maru  16   5711 + A/CV Wasp etc Quinhon  B
J ma Yusei Maru  37     600 + A/CV Wasp etc  Quinhon   B
J  APP Fushimi Maru  46 + A/CV --   Vungtao  B
J da Kaishu Maru  23   1086 + A/CV --   Longhai  B
J da Keisho Maru  44   2840 + A/CV --   Longhai  B
J dt Akashi Maru  43 10045 + A/CV Hornet,Hancock,Lexington
         10.20 N 107.05 E B
J dt Ayanami Maru 44   2863 + A/CV Hornet etc Cap St Jacques B
J PC Ch 31   41     420 + A/CV Hornet etc 11.10 N 108.55 E B
J PC Ch 34            420 = A/CV Hornet etc v. Cam Ranh  B
J PC Ch 43   42     420 + A/CV Hornet etc 11.53 N 109.08 E B
J FF Chiburi  44     940 + A/CV Hornet etc 10.20 N 107.50 E B
J dt Eino Maru  25   5209 + A/CV Hornet etc 11.10 N 108.55 E B
J mt Horui Maru No 9 44     834 + A/CV Hornet etc Cap St Jacques B
J mt Iyasaka Maru No 3          834 = A/CV Hornet etc Cap St Jacques B
J PE Kaibokan 2           740 = A/CV Hornet etc Cap St Jacques B
J PE Kaibokan 17  44     745 + A/CV Hornet etc 10.20 N 107.50 E B
J PE Kaibokan 18           740 = A/CV Hornet etc Cap St Jacques B
J PE Kaibokan 19  44     745 + A/CV Hornet etc 10.20 N 107.50 E B
J PE Kaibokan 35  44     745 + A/CV Hornet etc 11.10 N 108.55 E B
J PE Kaibokan 43  44     745 + A/CV Hornet etc 11.10 N 108.55 E B
J ma Kensei Maru  42   4646 + A/CV Hornet etc 11.10 N 108.55 E B
J dt Koshin Maru  44   2855 + A/CV Hornet etc 11.10 N 108.55 E B
J mt Kumagawa Maru 34   7509 + A/CV Hornet etc 10.20 N 107.45 E B
J dt Kyoei Maru No 7 44   1189 + A/CV Hornet etc Cap St Jacques B
J APM Otowa Maru  20     220 + A/CV Hornet etc 11.53 N 109.08 E B
J PE P 103   18     980 + A/CV Hornet etc 11.10 N 108.55 E B
J mk Ramb II Go  38   3685 + A/CV Hornet etc v Cam Ranh  B
J da Shingi Maru         6800 = A/CV Hornet etc Cap St Jacques B
J da Shinsei Maru  44   2880 + A/CV Hornet etc 10.20 N 107.45 E B
J LC T 137            887 = A/CV Hornet etc Cap St Jacques B
J LC T 149   44     887 + A/CV Hornet etc 10.20 N 107.50 E B
J da Toyu Maru  44   4532 + A/CV Hornet etc 11.10 N 108.55 E B
J PM W 101   44     580 + A/CV Hornet etc 11.10 N 108.55 E B
J da Chefoo Maru  44   3218 + A/CV Essex,Ticonderoga,Langley
         Saigon  B
J mt Horai Maru No 9 43     834 + A/CV Essex etc Saigon  B
J ma Ikutagawa Maru 31   4013 + A/CV Essex etc Saigon  B
J ma Kanju Maru  26   7266 + A/CV Essex etc Saigon  B
J da Kenei Mari  44   4815 + A/CV Essex etc Saigon  B
J da Kiyo Maru  12   4428 + A/CV Essex etc Saigon  B
F CL Lamotte Picquet 26   7249 + A/CV Essex etc Saigon  B
F AS Octant   18     315 + A/CV Essex etc Saigon  B
J da Shinsei Maru No 17 19   2556 + A/CV Essex etc Saigon  B
J LC T 131   44     887 + A/CV Essex etc Saigon  B
J LC T 140   44     887 + A/CV Essex etc Saigon  B
F da Tai Poo Sek  81   1960 +A/CV Essex etc  Saigon  B
J da Taikyu Maru  44   1518 + A/CV Essex etc Saigon  B


Gruß

Theo]]></description>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Re: Italian Ilvania</title>
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      <author>Theo</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Noch ein Lebenslauf.

Seltsamerweise im Deutschen Werk von Hans-Jürgen Abert nicht gefunden.


376.  KIEL         GE  1C
 
 MH
     - BETA
re-built to cargo vessel 1918 by Akt. Ges. &quot;Neptun&quot;, Rostock   474 grt,  144.8 x 25.3
18 - JOHANN W. JENS   Reed. A.G. &quot;Nordsee&quot;, Hamburg  (first listed LR 1920)
19 - HOLGER  Matth. Nielsen, Flensburg
25 - LATVIJA  M. Lappe, Libau       LA
28 - ALICIA   Chas. Strubin &amp; Co., Ltd., Libau
29 - Vickers &amp; Harris (C. Pawley, mgr.), Teignmouth     BR  160632
31 - A. Alfino &amp; Figli, Catania       IT  137
40 - ILVANIA   Raffaele Romano, Naples        532
(6-9/40 Naval requisition  F.29)
Caught fire from unknown cause, 29 Sep 1941, while lying at Porto Torres, timber and carbide, towed out of port and sank


Gruß

Theo]]></description>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Re: Schooner Kantara</title>
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      <author>paulh</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I think the word 'schooner' to describe this ship is misleading.  A picture of the ship shows two masts but also a very prominent funnel aft.  Although described in news reports as a schooner, it obviously had an engine.

As LAS PERLAS she carried 370 illegal Jewish immigrants to Palestine in June 1939.
In April 1941 ANTAR  helped a group of Greek government members to escape from German-occupied territory.

Paulh]]></description>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Re: Schooner Kantara</title>
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      <author>Theo</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hallo Jan-Olof,

lt WILLIAM A. SCHELL:


655.  SOPHIA COUPPA        RU  1C (10)
  385 D. N. Curcumellis, Berdiansk        186.0 x 28.1
    C Stabilimento Tecnico, Trieste  #266      185
08 - H. Couppa, Brdiansk
15 - K. A. Bytchichin &amp; O. W. Couppa, Berdiansk
27 - ASPASIA   P. M. Nomikos, Piraeus      GR  533
30 - AGHIA ANASTASSIA   Michalinos Maritime &amp; Commercial Co., Ltd., Piraeus
37 - Const. Papageorgiou &amp; Geo. Mastorakis, Piraeus
38 - Const. Papageorgiou, Piraeus
38 - MARMARAS    Pandelis Soc. Anon., Piraeus
39 - LAS PERLAS   Cia. Mediterranea de Vapores, Ltda., Panama    PA
39 - ANTAR   Atid Navigation Co., Ltd. (Barnett Bros. &amp; Borchard, Ltd.), Haifa  PT
Shelled and sunk by the Italian sub. ASCIANGHI, 21 Sep 1941, in 33.57N-35.04E, voy. Port Said &amp; Haifa - Mersin, cotton, tea and tinplate

Gruß

Theo]]></description>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Re: Mariupol</title>
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      <author>Theo</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hallo zusammen,


Ich habe hie einmal meine alten Unterlagen durchgesehen.



Segelschulschiff	TAVARISTCH		2472	BRT	1892		
Elektroturbinenschiff ( Neubau)	TRUD		10000	BRT	1941		
Dampfbaggerschute	WOLGA DON		956	BRT	1923		
Tanker	FEODOSIA						
Tanker	GROZNY		4954	BRT	1916		
Eisbrecher	SALOMBALA		428	BRT	1913		
Wohnschiff	Barge No.5		 	 			
Schwimmdock			3000	t			
Schwimmkran			40	t			
Leichter	KRESTJANKA		1300	BRT			
Tankleichter	Nr. 55		2090	BRT			
Leichter	REPUBLIKA		800	t			
Lazaretthulk	SANITARNAJA						
Tankleichter			200	t			
Tankleichter			300	t			
Baggerprahm	No. 6						
Baggerprahm	No 107						
							
und 35 Fischkutter 							


Viele Grüße


Theo]]></description>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Re: Lyon</title>
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      <author>Erling Skjold</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hello,
You have the convoy correct. The missing 2 minesweepers were M-322 and M-361.

Best regards,
Erling]]></description>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Re: Mariupol</title>
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      <author>phil morgan</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Good evening Fred

In reference to Furd, Krestyanka and Respublika, Meister certainly says &quot;Captured by German forces at Mariupol August 1941&quot;
I take your point about his accuracy, it is common to many authors, and would-be researchers!!]]></description>
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      <title>[Ship Forum] Re: Mariupol</title>
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      <author>Fred Mallia</author>
      <description><![CDATA[de domenico,the source was from Jurg Meister Soviet warships of the second world war.The book is fine but still not quite accurate with some others book that i have and read.]]></description>
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      <title>[Maritime Books Market Place] Re: HMS Hiniesta/Madiz</title>
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      <author>dannydog</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I did my national service in the R N 1954-56.
In 1955 I was aboard the Destroyer HMS Corunna while in dry dock undergoing a refit in Gibraltar.
During the refit the Chief Stoker arrived in the mess requesting anyone who had civvies report to the Engineering Officer.
As I had civvies I duly reported. 
The Engineering Officer explained that the Navigating Officer was a friend of the Yacht Hiniesta’s owner and had agreed to sail her from her wintering berth along the Spanish coast to Cannes on the French Riviera, as the Duke and Duchess of Windsor wanted to charter her for an early Mediterranean cruise.
Because of General Franco’s regime rules of the time, the regular Spanish stokers were not allowed to leave Spain for another month. 
Consequently the owner had brought three Portuguese stokers aboard to sail her across to Cannes. But when they inspected the engines, they asked where to put the coal.
The Hiniesta is an oil burner!
We were told if picked we would be required to look after the engines for the three day trip, when in the Cannes Marina we would be expected to work aboard cleaning the deck etc. during the morning watch but be free for the rest of the day. 
On the seventh day we would board the American liner SS Constitution and would sail back to Gibraltar.
We would not be allowed to wear our uniform, that’s why civvies were required.
We would be paid ten francs a day, on top of our RN pay.
That was quiet a lot of money in those days, for a sailor on twenty seven shillings a week.
Our pay books would allow us ashore in France.
I was lucky enough to be picked, 
We were taken by cutter to the Hiniesta lying just off the Straights.
We shared berths with two Portuguese deck hands, sharing Coffee where the spoon sat upright in the mug.
I think it took two nights to cross to Cannes.
The three of us had a great time in the town and on the beaches.
I have many good memories and photos of the trip.
The elite living quarters below were absolutely fantastic.
The morning we left for the SS Constitution. I recall seeing a party board the Yacht and I think the Duke and Duchess of Windsor were amongst them.
We were give a cabin on the Constitution and when we visited the restaurant an Enormous black steward welcomed us, showed us the order to use the cutlery and which wine to choose. He was great.
When we docked in Gibraltar, we pooled together as much as we could afford to give him a tip.
When we offered, he gave us a big smile and said. “Hey boys you need that much more than I do”. And gave us a small bottle of white wine each.
Anyway that’s my recollection of the Yacht Hiniesta.
I’ve had many a drink on the story.]]></description>
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      <title>[Maritime Books Market Place] Re: HMS Hiniesta/Madiz</title>
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      <author>dannydog</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I did my national service in the R N 1954-56.
In 1955 I was aboard the Destroyer HMS Corunna while in dry dock undergoing a refit in Gibraltar.
During the refit the Chief Stoker arrived in the mess requesting anyone who had civvies report to the Engineering Officer.
As I had civvies I duly reported. 
The Engineering Officer explained that the Navigating Officer was a friend of the Yacht Hiniesta’s owner and had agreed to sail her from her wintering berth along the Spanish coast to Cannes on the French Riviera, as the Duke and Duchess of Windsor wanted to charter her for an early Mediterranean cruise.
Because of General Franco’s regime rules of the time, the regular Spanish stokers were not allowed to leave Spain for another month. 
Consequently the owner had brought three Portuguese stokers aboard to sail her across to Cannes. But when they inspected the engines, they asked where to put the coal.
The Hiniesta is an oil burner!
We were told if picked we would be required to look after the engines for the three day trip, when in the Cannes Marina we would be expected to work aboard cleaning the deck etc. during the morning watch but be free for the rest of the day. 
On the seventh day we would board the American liner SS Constitution and would sail back to Gibraltar.
We would not be allowed to wear our uniform, that’s why civvies were required.
We would be paid ten francs a day, on top of our RN pay.
That was quiet a lot of money in those days, for a sailor on twenty seven shillings a week.
Our pay books would allow us ashore in France.
I was lucky enough to be picked, 
We were taken by cutter to the Hiniesta lying just off the Straights.
We shared berths with two Portuguese deck hands, sharing Coffee where the spoon sat upright in the mug.
I think it took two nights to cross to Cannes.
The three of us had a great time in the town and on the beaches.
I have many good memories and photos of the trip.
The elite living quarters below were absolutely fantastic.
The morning we left for the SS Constitution. I recall seeing a party board the Yacht and I think the Duke and Duchess of Windsor were amongst them.
We were give a cabin on the Constitution and when we visited the restaurant an Enormous black steward welcomed us, showed us the order to use the cutlery and which wine to choose. He was great.
When we docked in Gibraltar, we pooled together as much as we could afford to give him a tip.
When we offered, he gave us a big smile and said. “Hey boys you need that much more than I do”. And gave us a small bottle of white wine each.
Anyway that’s my recollection of the Yacht Hiniesta.
I’ve had many a drink on the story.]]></description>
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      <description><![CDATA[Paizis-Paradellis only says &quot;formerly in use for drainage works in Macedonia&quot;]]></description>
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      <author>de domenico</author>
      <description><![CDATA[The sources quoting Aug. 10 probably use the American dating system (the number of the month before that of the day).]]></description>
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      <author>Comas</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Thank you Brian as always!

Regards]]></description>
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