Re: EARLY RUSSIAN TORPEDO BOATS
Posted by: STEVE BRADLEY
Date: April 24, 2013 12:22AM
Many thanks Andreas. I have a complete Thornycroft list that numbers every craft over 30ft from 1-onwards. It is an appendix at the end of a centenary volume.." 100 Years of Specialized Shipbuilding & Engineering" by K.C.Barnaby.[Hutchinson 1964]It does list Firefly as #14but curiously there are few boats that approximate to the Sulin. My are as follows:
Displacement: 24.5 tons.
Dimensions: 75ft x 9ft 3in x 3ft 3in, [22.86 x2.86-3.05 .0.74-1.52m]
Machinery: 1-locomotive boiler, 1- high pressure direct acting engine, 1-screw, 114ihp=14knots.
Armament: 1 x spar/pole mine. : 1-15in/381mm torpedo tube, later 1-1pdr/37mm added.
Compliment: c.9 [1/8].
No.2*: Built John I. Thornycroft & Co. Chiswick 1874., delivered to the Baltic shipbuilding and Mechanical Works, St. Petersburg for assembly as a steam yacht for the Tsessarevich, re-classed as a torpedo launch by the Navy ministry, refitted and numbered Minonosku No.2, Transferred by rail to the Black Sea, Black Sea Fleet 1877 renamed Sulin [02/06/77] 14/06/77, [30/06/78] 12/07/78 sank 12 miles off Odessa after an internal explosion, , [02/10/78] 14/10/78 raised and repaired, fitted with a torpedo tube 1880, renamed No.173 [02/09/85] 14/09/85, No.92 [08/04/86] 20/04/86, No.88 [c 08/04/95]20/04/95, Discarded [16/10/04]. Later used as a harbour launch at the port of Sevastopol.
As Russia coverted many small launches at that time there is a possibility that she was rebuilt after the war.The likely cadidate datewise, in the Thornycroft list should therefore be between #15 and 26 [Firefly 1871 & Choutka 1874]Dates given are for launching.
#15: O.E.A: [Order for Emperoror Alexander?]57ft, 80ihp=14.76 knots, 1872.
#16: MAID OF ALL WORK: 42ft 40ihp=10.5knots 1872.
#17:SYLVIA: 45ft, 14.3 knots 1872.
#18: SIR ARTHUR COTTON, 87ft, 330ihp=1873.
#19: FIREFLY[ii] 30ft, 9nhp=10.5 knots 1873
#23:RAP Torpedo Launch, Norway 1874.
#24:A Launch, 54ft 6in, 40ihp=17.4 knots,1874.
#25:Steam Pinnace,RN 37ft 6in, 80ihp=9.18 knots,1874.
#26:CHOUTKA, pleasure launch, ROPiT [later TB] 1874
#27:DRAGONFLY, Launch, 108ihp=18 knots, 1874.
There are also other confusing bits of information: for example Gomm [Band III] has a list of launches and has Leytenant Puschkin [ex No.1]lost /10/10/77 on the Danube!
Another example in the Russian: "Minonoski of the Russian Fleet" the Kefal[#116] is described as the former British yacht Mary!
Again,thankyou for your efforts, Steve.